NineLions
Advanced beginner
Silver Level
$20 NL HE Full Ring: $25nl, Flush draw OOP, 4 way
Flush draw in a raised pot, 4 way, but OOP. Ignore what the hand thread starter says about $20 :/
I'm not actually the "Hero" here. I'm actually UTG+1 who open raises, but I found my opponent's perspective interesting so I manipulated the hand history to see it from his perspective.
"Hero" is a LAG; 50/30/3 or something like that. I raise UTG+1 and get two callers behind and he calls from the blinds.
poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $4.90 (19.6 bb)
UTG: $25.80 (103.2 bb)
UTG+1: $30.50 (122 bb)
MP1: $26.65 (106.6 bb)
MP2: $13.90 (55.6 bb)
MP3: $36.70 (146.8 bb)
CO: $14.75 (59 bb)
BTN: $5 (20 bb)
Hero (SB): $51.85 (207.4 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J
T
UTG folds,
UTG+1 raises to $1,
MP1 calls $1, MP2 folds, MP3 folds,
CO calls $1, BTN folds,
Hero calls $0.90, BB folds
Flop: ($4.25) 3
2
3
(4 players)
Hero bets $0.25
This is interesting to me. Typical donk bet means "I've paired something" but in this case it's too small for that. Those type of donk bets are usually a little bigger, especially given the pot size.
If no one raises they all have unpaired overcards and/or are afraid of the 4 way situation. Hero could then try to take it away on the turn, or catch his flush for cheap.
But I think what he's really trying to do with this lead is to force someone to raise. I've raised UTG+1, but I'm OOP and if I've wiffed I'm not likely to raise. But if I don't raise then CO might sense no strength and try to take it away.
Since "Hero" is LAG and last to complete preflop, he can also represent a possible A3s by checkraising, and he's got the flush draw and overs (if everyone else has missed) if he gets called. Because it's 4 way and likely a totally missed flop by everyone else, I think he wants to avoid getting checked around by donking a minbet to stimulate a raise.
Any thoughts on this? Does this strategy make sense? Am I misreading his strategy?
Flush draw in a raised pot, 4 way, but OOP. Ignore what the hand thread starter says about $20 :/
I'm not actually the "Hero" here. I'm actually UTG+1 who open raises, but I found my opponent's perspective interesting so I manipulated the hand history to see it from his perspective.
"Hero" is a LAG; 50/30/3 or something like that. I raise UTG+1 and get two callers behind and he calls from the blinds.
poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $4.90 (19.6 bb)
UTG: $25.80 (103.2 bb)
UTG+1: $30.50 (122 bb)
MP1: $26.65 (106.6 bb)
MP2: $13.90 (55.6 bb)
MP3: $36.70 (146.8 bb)
CO: $14.75 (59 bb)
BTN: $5 (20 bb)
Hero (SB): $51.85 (207.4 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J
UTG folds,
UTG+1 raises to $1,
MP1 calls $1, MP2 folds, MP3 folds,
CO calls $1, BTN folds,
Hero calls $0.90, BB folds
Flop: ($4.25) 3
Hero bets $0.25
This is interesting to me. Typical donk bet means "I've paired something" but in this case it's too small for that. Those type of donk bets are usually a little bigger, especially given the pot size.
If no one raises they all have unpaired overcards and/or are afraid of the 4 way situation. Hero could then try to take it away on the turn, or catch his flush for cheap.
But I think what he's really trying to do with this lead is to force someone to raise. I've raised UTG+1, but I'm OOP and if I've wiffed I'm not likely to raise. But if I don't raise then CO might sense no strength and try to take it away.
Since "Hero" is LAG and last to complete preflop, he can also represent a possible A3s by checkraising, and he's got the flush draw and overs (if everyone else has missed) if he gets called. Because it's 4 way and likely a totally missed flop by everyone else, I think he wants to avoid getting checked around by donking a minbet to stimulate a raise.
Any thoughts on this? Does this strategy make sense? Am I misreading his strategy?