$20 NLHE 6-max: TPTK, strange line from reg villain

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/19/52

His flop cbet % is 72% and I've never seen him get out of line. What do you think his range is on the turn, I can't imagine he ever checks a monster on the flop with the fish in the pot (guy who limps is huge fish), I would have thought he would cbet his flush draws as well, what the hell does he have when he min raises the turn? Him having a 6 makes sense but there aren't many 6's in his range I don't think when he isolates from the sb.


888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $26.40
UTG: $31.18 (VPIP: 16.62, PFR: 13.08, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, hands: 378)
MP: $20.30 (VPIP: 26.56, PFR: 22.54, 3Bet Preflop: 12.43, Hands: 458)
CO: $12.23 (VPIP: 76.79, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 58)
BTN: $23.02 (VPIP: 26.76, PFR: 23.94, 3Bet Preflop: 17.24, Hands: 73)
SB: $19.78 (VPIP: 25.12, PFR: 20.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.05, Hands: 623)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 9:heart: A:heart:

fold, fold, CO calls $0.20, fold, SB raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.80, CO calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.00, 3 players) 2:club: 9:spade: 6:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, fold, SB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.50, 2 players) 6:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB raises to $8.00, Hero?
 
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Not sure i can give you any advice on this one, but I would like to see what other people think
 
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i like checking behind this turn for a little pot control since u dont really have the nuts but the line you have taken is good too. im folding the turn reraise most of the time. overpair is much more likely than the 6. the 6 is irrelevant IMO.
 
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I expect him to bet all his overpairs on the flop though, can't see any reasons why he would check them with the fish in the pot
 
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I bet a little more on the turn, we're hardly ever good here when raised but meh odds make me just about call don't mind a fold either this is 6x way more often than it is a draw.
 
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I would have checked behind the turn and perhaps call a bet on riv, depends what comes tho. As played when he minraises here I really think he miss clicked but I would fold anyway :)
 
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Something is wrong here IMO.
1. I mean, if he had something like A6 or K6, why would he raise preflp OOP, makes no sense, especially for solid tight player.
2. 99 is so unlikely, almost always we can exclude that from his range.
3. 22 is possible, but as you said he never gets out of his line, so filling up from the SB would be optimal play for such player.
4. Overpair is possible as well, but with flushdraw and one fish in the pot as you said, he is throwing his money away by not betting or raising.

A very weird play, especially with this minraise, like someone said, it really looks like missclick lol.
I would call this turn and then evaluate things if I face a big bet on the river.
 
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Looks like he had the J-3 of diamonds? This is what I don't like about Poker trackers and the VPIP being shown to you, it can manipulate your thinking,

He may have A-6 suited and was either trying to iso the fish or win a big pot with a good flop though seems unlikely due to his range/raising range

Or maybe he had some crazy hand like 6-7 suited and again was making a play trying to use his image to stack you or the other player with the correct flop/board.

I know the above seems unlikely but unless he played an over pair (badly) by not betting or check raising on the flop every possible hand he could have seems unlikely and doesn't make sense (to me)

Since none of it makes sense I'm putting Villain on J-3 of diamonds...

Please don't bite my head off for what I said about poker Trackers (lol) They are a great tool for online poker and an edge, I was just saying it can blind you if some one were to change gears or make a play. =)
 
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Whoops just realized villain isnt the 70vpip CO.
There aren't many 6x hands in his range but his flop and turn actions follow A6s/56s/67s so hard and I just can't ever see a draw check calling preflop. Don't hate a call cuz of odds but I expect less spazzery vs this guy when I can't see any draws taking a check call line yet its the norm for 2nd pair.

Still betting turn though theres way more weak 9x/88/77 than there is 6x till we're raised.
 
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Looks like he had the J-3 of diamonds?

Your read is dead wrong this is clearly the J-3 of clubs.

Anyway I'd just fold here if I haven't yet seen him make a goofy *** play like this before. No one ever really bluffs this way.
 
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Your read is dead wrong this is clearly the J-3 of clubs.

Anyway I'd just fold here if I haven't yet seen him make a goofy *** play like this before. No one ever really bluffs this way.
I bluff this way. It's cheap and it works from time to time because it reps the nuts -- the story here is "I have a great hand and yours didn't improve a ton here so I'm offering you killer odds so please please pretty please add more money to the pot." CTS and Slowhabit also recommend doing it in Let There Be Range, for roughly the same reasons.
 
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Ok? Are you advocating a call then? This player more than likely didn't read Tri's book but perhaps he's thinking along the same lines (or he's just a button clicker heh), even though this is absolutely not a line that is often taken as a bluff at this limit. Quite the contrary.

Plan for the river?
 
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Ok? Are you advocating a call then? This player more than likely didn't read Tri's book but perhaps he's thinking along the same lines (or he's just a button clicker heh), even though this is absolutely not a line that is often taken as a bluff at this limit. Quite the contrary.
Well he's a slightly laggy-seeming reg, probably recognizes us as such, and this board misses tight ranges a ton. His range is probably polarized to like QQ+/sets (possibly even just KK+ and sets) and air, so I peel and bluffcatch river. AKo as a bluff has enough combos that we can mathematically call almost any river bet, and if he likely has air he has more air than that.
 
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AK suited or he's hit the book on the turn.

He's hoping 3 ppl in the pot someone raises the flop. Perhaps hopes ppl get their flush draws and hope to GII when he books it. So much implied odds with this play that's if he does have pocket 9's

perhaps AKsuited he has a lot of fold equity with this play and hopes you put him on KK or AA but even if u call and u don't fold... he has a chance to hit a spade or AK which is still a bit of outs to improve and win the hand.


AKs is a great line because he has a ton of fold equity and with u betting the flop your obv not defending and you've connected to the flop... And in knowing that he can choose this line to hope you fold out...
 
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