£20 NLHE 6-max: Touch river decision with AA.

Thinker_145 · Nov 15, 2015

iPoker - £0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 34.16, PFR: 24.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, hands: 3,717)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.77, PFR: 16.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.53, Hands: 11,661)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 281.95 BB (VPIP: 25.48, PFR: 20.30, 3Bet Preflop: 6.59, Hands: 2,991)
CO: 371 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.43, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 108)
BTN: 166.05 BB (VPIP: 27.59, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 355)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) 2:spade: 5:spade: 7:heart:
Hero bets 7.2 BB, MP calls 7.2 BB, fold

Turn: (26.4 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
Hero bets 15.8 BB, MP calls 15.8 BB

River: (58 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero checks, MP bets 40.6 BB, ??

I really really can't put him on a hand here. But he is a standard reg unlikely to barrel a missed draw here.

MrBadAss · Nov 15, 2015

a reg wont barrel a miss draw? i think he SHOULD, like the hand was played and if you dont barrel river that in my opinion you should because his range its not just sets, are also 88/99/1010/JJ that over pairs that you still win

ScottishMatt · Nov 15, 2015

I've gotta think a regs MPvUTG calling range is mostly strong suited broadways/pocket pairs. Maybe some other random crap on occasion. You are up against pocket sixes or a missed flush draw. It's a close one because you holding the As cuts down on his flush draw combos. Ultimately I would base this decision on how he plays postflop along with the metagame dynamics. How many table he plays and how quickly he made the bet is indicative of how easy a decision his bet was. If he snapbet I would put him on sixes and fold.

Any other info on him?

Thinker_145 · Nov 15, 2015

ScottishMatt said:
I've gotta think a regs MPvUTG calling range is mostly strong suited broadways/pocket pairs. Maybe some other random crap on occasion. You are up against pocket sixes or a missed flush draw. It's a close one because you holding the As cuts down on his flush draw combos. Ultimately I would base this decision on how he plays postflop along with the metagame dynamics. How many table he plays and how quickly he made the bet is indicative of how easy a decision his bet was. If he snapbet I would put him on sixes and fold.

Any other info on him?

It was snap bet but I actually tanked before checking so maybe it's not really a tell here. He is a winning multi tabler tight reg but not too tight. FCB is 50% and Float/probe stats are medium I would say. I don't have any big bluffing attempt recorded in my notes which I mostly note with regs.

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ScottishMatt · Nov 15, 2015

Snap bet is 66 I'd say. If someone is focusing on multiple tables and multiple decisions, all of which he sees as highly important and he isn't far down on the bluffing end of the spectrum but can make a snap decision on this board runout I'd fold here.

Thinker_145 · Nov 15, 2015

Ya keeping all that in mind I folded. If this was a bluff then good on him.

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joe777 · Nov 29, 2015

I would fold,villain probably got 77 also.

Aces2w1n · Nov 29, 2015

Im calling

Not many 6s in his ranges

Really think a 6 is calling pre and flop???

We check river looks like we give up ao we r underreped

hffjd2000 · Nov 29, 2015

I believe you are beat here. He is surely value betting at river.

Less he has 6 but more he has a set.

Aces2w1n · Nov 29, 2015

You know whats funny i would think bout raising river for value

MinhANguyen · Nov 29, 2015

Aces2w1n said:
You know whats funny i would think bout raising river for value

He has to have a set or 66 for a straight here, or an outright bluff. Our hand right now is a bluff-catcher. All his sets and straights will call us down, and he will fold out all his bluffs. Raising accomplishes nothing here.

If we think he's bluffing, we should just call down. He is not betting this huge here with a worse hand (99-JJ for example), which are the only hands we realistically beat, or some pair he decided that he turned into a bluff. But most villains at these stakes would rather check back hands with SDV than turn them into a bluff.

What worse hands will bomb the river and call a river check-raise down on this scary board? Can't think of any. He's not going to hero call us with 99-JJ, some lone pair he decided to turn into a bluff, and definitely not A high.

bitowl · Nov 30, 2015

He probably checks back his 1 card hands on river. So he's either bluffing a missed draw or had some pair+draw with a 6 in it. Without knowing how bluff happy they are I think it's just a fold. I think bet/folding to a raise would be better vs most passive types.

Really though it's just an unfortunate run out. I would guess check/calling check/folding and bet/folding all have roughly equal EV in the long run against an unknown so even if its a mistake it isn't a big one.

Aces2w1n · Nov 30, 2015

MinhANguyen said:
He has to have a set or 66 for a straight here, or an outright bluff. Our hand right now is a bluff-catcher. All his sets and straights will call us down, and he will fold out all his bluffs. Raising accomplishes nothing here.

If we think he's bluffing, we should just call down. He is not betting this huge here with a worse hand (99-JJ for example), which are the only hands we realistically beat, or some pair he decided that he turned into a bluff. But most villains at these stakes would rather check back hands with SDV than turn them into a bluff.

What worse hands will bomb the river and call a river check-raise down on this scary board? Can't think of any. He's not going to hero call us with 99-JJ, some lone pair he decided to turn into a bluff, and definitely not A high.

It's not exactly a bomb on the river, he may have simply put us on AK and he's bluffing.

What if we bomb him? Wouldn't there be fold equity even if he has set?

el_magiciann · Nov 30, 2015

i deffo would make that call on the river, mostly because u just checked the river and he is IP

Thinker_145 · Nov 30, 2015

Aces2w1n said:
It's not exactly a bomb on the river, he may have simply put us on AK and he's bluffing.

What if we bomb him? Wouldn't there be fold equity even if he has set?

We only have 33 BB left so no there is almost no fold equity unless Villain had complete air.

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Aces2w1n · Nov 30, 2015

Thin value was my initial thought against overpairs

WVHillbilly · Nov 30, 2015

Bet/fold the river. As played, call.

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