$20 NLHE 6-max: shove all in turn on 3b pot co vs sb or flat?

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Hi,

This is my first post on this forum

I just had this situation, and I wondered what u guys think. Is my turnshove standart or would a call and then decide on river make more sense?

Hand: NL20 (

Btn open AQo, sb 3bets, bb folds I flat.

Flop QT2 2tone, cbet / call

turn 4 with backdoor flushdraw

villain cbets giving him 12 behind for a total pot of 40

Should I shove here thinking I could shove a bd flushdraw so he may peel with KQ for example? Thinking afterwards he gets pot odds of 29% so he won't call his draws on the shove. So maybe better to just call and if flop bricks call it off, if draws hit fold?

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I think shove is a littlebit to much here. TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, AK, AQs KQs, ,range he got so you can beat only JJ,AK and KQ and split with AQ. Call is good and if the river a J and he be you should fold, just as a random river and he bet more than half pot.
 
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thanks for the reply

u think I should fold river if he jams on a blank? for example 5 no 3flush? he still has all flushdraws on flop and backdoor flushdraws in his range and also KJ and J9s that he 3bets preflop, that he can jam river as a bluff (maybe, dont know)
 
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If the river is not K, J or a flushcard, you may call, but i still don`t think that he will bluff 3 streets(if you got some reads about Villain that`s change evrithing).
Oh and i still don`t think that he will 3bet preflop with J9s
 
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Your analysis is all about you and what you have when you should be thinking about what he has.
For us to comment you need to give us your assessment of the opponent and assign him a range of hands. It is also crucial to know what suit your ace is. Once you have a range consider how your hand matches up against that range and act accordingly. If you dont do this you are playing blindfold and guessing.
 
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villain cbets giving him 12 behind for a total pot of 40
He has 12 behind a $40 pot? He can't fold anything...

Just shove it on the turn, villain is mega committed.
 
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He has 12 behind a $40 pot? He can't fold anything...

Just shove it on the turn, villain is mega committed.

what would he call that i beat? he gets 30% pot odds and either a straight of flushdraw is max 20% equity so he'll fold em, so will he call much that I beat?
 
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His pot odds are 12:52, or 4.3:1, or 19%.

Either your math is wrong, or you're mistaken about the pot/stack size.
 
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Hmmm flat unknown. 4bet fish.

spr under 3... i'm getting it in. *not under 3* we bet every street
Simples.

Just think of what range this guy could have. But also make sure you add all the details like stack sizes and try and add vpip etc. If not buy pokertracker or holdem manager.
 
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I think with any line with the cash he has it's probably going in either way inless he's super conservative then shoving would probably not work but I feel like your post is lacking some crucial details.


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