$20 NLHE 6-max: Should I be stacking ak here?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $10.14
BTN: $9.96
SB: $10.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $30.09

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K♣ A♦

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95, 3 players) 3♠ K♥ 6♠
UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, UTG raises to $2.70, Hero ???

I should shove this right? only 15 hands, but he did limp utg so hes probably bad.

Or he has AA ,but he would have prob reraised pre i would imagine?

ALL IN CLUBS said:

Or he has AA ,but he would have prob reraised pre i would imagine?

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my thought too. maybe not, but its definitely discounted.

Maybe KQ Spades ... AQ Spades

Stats/reads on villain? Has he limp called before? Will often be a set here at 10NL (especially if he doesn't limp/call too often, if he does limp call a lot then he could have any number of hands including a lot of Ax, Kx), people are generally playing fit or fold with small pairs in early position so like to get in there as cheap as they can.

Yea trip 333 or 666 was my first thought. Limps 33 or 66 to see cheap flop then calls the raise because 3 players in the pot and getting the right price.. but like you said not enough info hard not sure if im am shoving on top the might be a big mistake..

u guys really think AA here?? if so than what a time and flop to get em.

i think set makes sense here pretty often

SPR of ~5 with TPTK. Never fold.

WVHillbilly said:

SPR of ~5 with TPTK. Never fold.

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Finally someone agrees with me . I definitely agree that he shows up with sets a lot, but this argument wins me over.


and btw sorry that i put 20NL, its 10NL.

results, he showed up with k6(?) lol. i ended up spiking the a on the river though haha.

WVHillbilly said:

SPR of ~5 with TPTK. Never fold.

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What? Let's say villain only raises 2p+, why would SPR matter then? You can only take it into consideration if both players give any thought to it imo. This guy obviously doesn't.

rssurfer54 said:

Finally someone agrees with me . I definitely agree that he shows up with sets a lot, but this argument wins me over.

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Wins you over? Seems to me you made a bad call and posted the hand to justify the call to yourself. That's not the way to progress at poker, that means you will only make the mistake again.

Eat these words up and let them be your mantra:

A raise from a passive player at 10NL always means two pair or better.

When you don't know someone, you can assume they're passive.

ComplexPlaya said:

What? Let's say villain only raises 2p+, why would SPR matter then? You can only take it into consideration if both players give any thought to it imo. This guy obviously doesn't.

Eat these words up and let them be your mantra:

A raise from a passive player at 10NL always means two pair or better.

When you don't know someone, you can assume they're passive.

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What? Aren't you the guy who always complains (rightly so) about people being results oriented? Yet this unknown 10nl player suddenly never limp/calls preflop and then raises post with anything less than 2pair+??? If he doesn't have random suited spades or 45o or KQ/KJ often enough to make this a stack there is no hope for poker. The game is dead. Since I know that's not the case though I'll soldier on stacking TPTK here every day of the week.

WVHillbilly said:

What? Aren't you the guy who always complains (rightly so) about people being results oriented? Yet this unknown 10nl player suddenly never limp/calls preflop and then raises post with anything less than 2pair+??? If he doesn't have random suited spades or 45o or KQ/KJ often enough to make this a stack there is no hope for poker. The game is dead. Since I know that's not the case though I'll soldier on stacking TPTK here every day of the week.

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I would honestly have said the same thing if OP didn't hurry to post results.
The hope for poker is the type of passive calling station will call 3 barrels with Kx and 2 barrels with draws (maybe 3 if he spikes a pair somewhere) but once they raise at any point, I'll bet my house it's 2 pair+ at 10NL. This comes from experience and tracking results/hands.

If most unknown fish at your site and stakes are passive it's an easy fold imo. Even aces is. And I'm far from a nit when I play. I'm sorry, I don't know what the passive fish raise ranges are at 100NL but at 10-20NL they ain't anything top pair beats.

It's Balluga theorem extended to all streets basically. Think about it. What is the trait of a passive calling station? They call. They like calling. When they raise they're doing something totally uncharacteristic to them, and when someone that has been calling KJ here 3 streets all his life decides to raise, you can either hope it's that 1/100 time he's tilting and wants to spew, or that he has a better hand.

I was stacking off here for months too, you don't want to know how many BIs I've lost at 10NL by doing it with TPTK and overpairs. If you want a prop bet I can provide you with a significant sample of hands for this situation as well

ComplexPlaya said:

I would honestly have said the same thing if OP didn't hurry to post results.

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Sorry to kill the discussion!