$20 NLHE 6-max: QQ facing triple donk barrel in 3 bet pot.

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Villain donk flop stat is 4% so this was a really unusual approach from him. Do you call the river? Would you have 2 bet the flop?

iPoker - £0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 169.45 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 18.55, 3Bet Preflop: 7.27, hands: 3,197)
Hero (BTN): 179.4 BB
SB: 131.15 BB (VPIP: 18.83, PFR: 16.58, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 14,086)
BB: 22.55 BB (VPIP: 67.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
UTG: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 20.17, PFR: 16.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.69, Hands: 10,501)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: Q:diamond:

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: 2:diamond: 3:club:
CO bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (46.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
CO bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB

River: (106.5 BB, 2 players) K:club:
CO bets 55 BB, Hero ?
 
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call call call, if you call turn you ofc have to call that river, he can have like A4d,A5d,AKd, TT, JJ
 
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He knows you are super strong here yet barrels and only half pots river. What is villains fold to 3bet? He shouldnt have a lot of draws here and it looks like he wants a crying call from 1010-QQ so I probably find a fold here.
 
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He knows you are super strong here yet barrels and only half pots river. What is villains fold to 3bet? He shouldnt have a lot of draws here and it looks like he wants a crying call from 1010-QQ so I probably find a fold here.
Fold to 3 bet after 2 bet 46%.
 
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This is a tough spot, he probably has some draws, but I don't think he donks a draw and barrels off and only half pots river unless he has Kd10d, KdJd exactly but then again his donk% is soo low he may never donk draws.

I think with his fold to 3bet being so low he probably calls with pocket pairs often but does he take this line with a pocket pair you beat? Again his donk% leans towards nutty hands so is he taking this line as a "set my own price" line with 1010 or JJ? Seems unlikely.

I think we can find a fold because our hand is pretty face up right now and he is still betting and I think he is repping a big hand with his donk% by donking and firing 3 barrels in a 3 bet pot.
 
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I called and Villain showed 77. Really don't know what to feel about it...
 
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I called and Villain showed 77. Really don't know what to feel about it...

.............. is exactly how, lol. I am not too surprised to see 77 because he would donk with it and fire all 3 streets. Most donk bets besides sets and Kd10d/KdJd would not be firing that river.

Super hard to fold that river for that price in the moment. Thats why we review though.
 
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I have played and 3 bet this player a fair number of times, this is the first time he donked me. He generally plays pretty snug against me so that was really telling me to fold the river. But I never put him on a suited King hand since OOP I don't think that's really in his calling range. I also believed that his donk bet was full of it. So that only really left 1 hand and it's one of those situations where I just had to see if I am right or wrong. He did make the perfect sizing though as I am folding to a 2/3 bet.
 
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Vs donks im calling flop with medium pairs +, turn too and river only if improved . In this case with an overpair and a missed draw im making crying call on river but idk, maybe u can flip a coin and call or fold :p
 
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I called and Villain showed 77. Really don't know what to feel about it...

Make a note of his sizing strategy when he is betting over multiple streets. 1/2 when he was semi-weak in regards to your range, then he went 2/3rds when he essentially had the nuts, then 1/2 again when your range became more likely to fold.

I'd recommend if you see his betsizing % change like that again on a seemingly innocuous card take a moment to reconsider his range.
 
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Make a note of his sizing strategy when he is betting over multiple streets. 1/2 when he was semi-weak in regards to your range, then he went 2/3rds when he essentially had the nuts, then 1/2 again when your range became more likely to fold.

I'd recommend if you see his betsizing % change like that again on a seemingly innocuous card take a moment to reconsider his range.

+1 I was going to mention the diff with his betsizing.
 
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