$20 NLHE 6-max: Overpair facing donkbet then 3bet

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UTG - Hero ($29.31)
MP ($20)
CO ($16.39)
BTN ($21.40)
SB ($29.64)
BB ($20)

Hero is dealt Jc,Jd

Preflop ($0.30)
Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, SB calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop ($1.33) is 10c,7c,2s
SB bets $1.05, Hero raises to $3.30, SB raises to $11, Hero?

Ths is the first time I've been at a table with this guy and we've played about 100 hands here on this table. We've clashed once in a pretty similar situation to this. I raised in EP with AJ, he called in the SB with T4s (lol), flop came T high, he donked 3/4, I raised with air, he called, he checks the turn I bluff at it, he calls, I river a J with 4 cards to straight out and it goes check/check. So he is clearly quite fishy and we know that last time he donked like this he had tpwk. So I go ahead and raise it up to get value from Tx hands. He then snap 3bets it back, so go with our initial read that he has a one pair Tx hand? My thoughts were last time he did this I bluff raised his donkbet and sucked out so maybe he doesn't want that to happen again. Get the chips in the middle?
 
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last time he only called you with tp, this time he snapped 3bet, I think it is time to fold. forget about the 3 $ you invested and move along.

I think it is better to make a bad fold than to make a bad shove here.
 
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Is the guy a fish? If so with the history it seems like a perfect time raise and call it off. Can he have AT here and do this? If he is a fish i'd say definitely then it's a call considering he knows you can raise air when he donks.
 
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^

and imo this is way to huge to be any kind of value 3b unless villain is a mass multitabling weaktight regfish
 
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ugh, i didnt realise we are 150 deep, less in love with stacking but its still probably ok. His 3bet size is so big its just weird. Looks like he is commited but wouldnt expect him to raise this big with a set, i probably just go broke if hes a fish here and expect it to be fine.
 
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In answer to the question 'is he a fish', I haven't really noticed him because I was multitabling, but the one hand i mentioned where I clashed with him is surely enough evidence to suggest he is, he called a raise in the sb with T4s.
 
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Well seeing as he's a pretty big donk for the t4s call earliar I'm stacking especially given his history (him catching you raising air vs a donk). Stats would be handy here to deem him a passive or spewy fish but I guess the default would be a begrudged shove.
 
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