€20 NLHE 6-max: Overpair with danger on board

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€20 NL HE 6-max: Overpair with danger on board

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 41/22/2.17

I think I made a mistake here, but I am not entirely sure. Want to check with you guys!

€0.10/€0.20 No Limit Holdem
Entraction
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG _OverKiLL_ (€49.95)
CO patttan (€18.82)
BTN Hero (€22.64)
SB erbiagio (€8.93)
BB pezasesino (€25)

Pre-Flop: (€0.30, 5 players) Hero is BTN 10:spade: 10:club:
1 fold, patttan raises to €0.70, Hero raises to €1.55, erbiagio calls €1.45, 1 fold, patttan calls €0.85

Flop: 7:diamond: 3:diamond: 8:diamond: (€4.85, 3 players)
erbiagio checks, patttan bets €3.63, Hero ????
 
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When you post stats, can you also include # of hands? kthx

Your raise pre is not enough. I'd raise around 2.4. Or just call..depends on the read/stats. As played idk, I guess I'm getting it in.
 
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When you post stats, can you also include # of hands? kthx

Your raise pre is not enough. I'd raise around 2.4. Or just call..depends on the read/stats. As played idk, I guess I'm getting it in.

With simple raise, or shove?

As for pre-flop, I am trying to smaller my 3-bets IP, to get more calls and hopefully more action on/after the flop. So I was a bit of experimenting with it, I guess I'll raise a bit more like 3/4 pot IP and pot size OOP
 
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pf, if you're looking to get action, flatting TT on the btn isn't bad.
 
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pf, if you're looking to get action, flatting TT on the btn isn't bad.

Hmm. Isn't 3-betting more action-inducing though? Most villains at this level don't cbet turn, and alot not even the flop

I'll give my reasons for posting this (plus results) tomorrow, seeing if more people will have an opinion till then
 
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3betting pre or calling kind of depend on his fold to 3bet stat. If he calls to much then yeah 3bet. But if he folds a lot then call and now you have a solid hand IP.
3betting makes a bigger pot if it's called but you also fold a lot of hands that you beat and you may get a pot sized cbet on the flop if he missed.
 
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3betting pre or calling kind of depend on his fold to 3bet stat. If he calls to much then yeah 3bet. But if he folds a lot then call and now you have a solid hand IP.
3betting makes a bigger pot if it's called but you also fold a lot of hands that you beat and you may get a pot sized cbet on the flop if he missed.

Of course. He had a 71% fold to c-bet over 524 hands, which I interpreted as low-enough to 3-bet value, maybe I made the wrong interpretation though? What % do you think is high enough to 3-bet mostly light and call most value hands with?

The hand played out this way :

€0.10/€0.20 No Limit Holdem
Entraction
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG _OverKiLL_ (€49.95)
CO patttan (€18.82)
BTN Hero (€22.64)
SB erbiagio (€8.93)
BB pezasesino (€25)

Pre-Flop: (€0.30, 5 players) Hero is BTN 10:spade: 10:club:
1 fold, patttan raises to €0.70, Hero raises to €1.55, erbiagio calls €1.45, 1 fold, patttan calls €0.85

Flop: 7:diamond: 3:diamond: 8:diamond: (€4.85, 3 players)
erbiagio checks, patttan bets €3.63, Hero goes all-in €21.09, erbiagio folds, patttan folds

Final Pot: €29.57

I'm wondering if shoving was a mistake, I was maybe too scared of the heavy draw board and the third player in the pot, so I was wondering if just a 2x raise on the flop would make him stack up on turn/river.

Right now I'm thinking it was still the right play with that board texture though...
 
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