€20 NLHE 6-max: Did I go overboard here or just a cooler?

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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 236.4 BB (VPIP: 54.86, PFR: 37.16, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, hands: 529)
Hero (CO): 110.6 BB
BTN: 352.9 BB (VPIP: 20.84, PFR: 17.13, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 5,222)
SB: 162.3 BB (VPIP: 26.62, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 3.62, Hands: 3,018)
BB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 18.96, PFR: 16.85, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 10,803)
UTG: 173.35 BB (VPIP: 23.44, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 3.09, Hands: 788)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: J:spade:

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart: K:heart: T:heart:
MP bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 12.65 BB, MP calls 10.65 BB

Turn: (30.8 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
MP checks, Hero bets 42 BB, MP calls 42 BB

River: (114.8 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
MP bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 53.95 BB and is all-in, MP calls 46.95 BB

MP shows A:heart: 3:heart: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks A:diamond: J:spade: (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 68%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
MP wins 211.6 BB

So what do you make of this? My reasoning for playing this aggressively was that I don't think the Villain can ever lay down a nut flush draw here and would have trouble even getting away with 2 pair. Might even re pop with a set. But of course he could have flopped a flush and I was dead all along that's really the problem with this sort of a hand.

I shipped the river because it seemed like a blocker bet. So what do you say then? Bad luck or this is a hand that really should be played passively?

Okay lets say he had a set... cuz the board didnt pair he wont call rivers and would explain the block bet

2paired would give up earlier

So yeh carried away if he calls the turn just flat riv save money
Im not a fan of flatting ajo pre

played fine, cooler.

acky100 said:

played fine, cooler.

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I disagree a bit, its a cooler in thr sense of a rare flopped flush i guess.

I dom't like the overbet ott, a I don't think you need to build the pot anymore than 3/4 to get stacks in otr. yhis kind of villain is gonna pay you off with top pair maybe.

I would be getting a bit suspicious OTT as played, did he snap call?

and the small net otr is like classic fish"I got the nuts" play . but by then your commited .. sucks, on to the next

Yeah I think Acky is right you played it ok, its a cooler. If he has any KQ KJ KT here he's calling the turn and really only folding KJ on the end on that run out. These hands along with Ax suited fit the preflop action.
If we run scared at every monotone flop with a hand this strong I think we will lose value over time.

Just musing, looking at the hand once the big bet is called on the turn I would have been bothered that the Ace of hearts is missing, clearly if he calls this big on the turn then it is a very distinct possibility that he has the ace, if so what does he have with it? Nothing that calls the river raise unless its suited.
His preflop actions look too weak to have a set AK or AQ, does he always come in for a min raise or can you read something weaker into his opening sizing?
Does he often donk into the flop like that and if so with what hands, draws or as pot sweetners?
These are the clues I'm looking for to try and get the read required here.
What hands would throw out a river blocker of that size? maybe KJ.

I can't see any non nutted Ace hand that would throw out a blocker here that fits with the preflop action, most of them just check.
A guy with these stats has every suited ace in his range so maybe an element of caution on the end might be in order (cert in future against this vill, make notes)

Figaroo beat me to it. There are so many hands in his range that make it to the river here. Unfortunately a flush is one of them. I agree that we cannot shut down on suited flops....Especially when we are HU. I would have just called the river bet. Only because the villain should have every expectation of us raising the blocking bet since we have shown super aggression throughout the hand. This is definitely a cooler and I think it was played fine.

I agree that you can't give up on boards like this with such strong holdings but surely yo can't expect to stack off against anything worse by the river.

when i run īnto a spot like this i would opt to pot control when i know it's impossible for me to make the nuts or the OBVIOUS best hand.

i like the call preflop, as you've got position and there's no reason just yet to bloat the pot with a hand like aj that can play well postflop.

on the flop i like the raise, it's a great spot to get value from one heart hands, when he calls your raise his range is Ahx, Axh, AAh,KK,QQ,TT,KQ,KT, QT and JhK

i keep the high sets in his range here because he did raise preflop, and just because he didnt 3x doesnt mean we can rule them out, hero only called his bet and as such gained no extra information

on the turn i like to pot control when checked to, the overbet is silly as i would expect alot of hands you beat to fold, you're also setting yourself up for a tough spot on the river with the 12th nuts or something close to that, there are more cards in the deck that keep your hand best vs that range so this makes for easy decision making on the river.

if the 4th heart appears, then it's an easy fold out of a pot without toooo much invested, when it doesn't(which is most of the time) you open up the door for all of the one heart hands to bluff, and for the sets and 2 pairs to value own themselves out of position. to which you can just call, having got 2 streets of value with a strong hand that's still vulnerable.

even if the board pairs you can still comfortably call knowing that there are more combinations of 2 pair and '3 pair' than full houses, providing villain doesn't overbet the river

yes you still lose to the flush and always did, but hey, fool on them for not getting their value on the turn, they allowed you to get 1 step closer to showdown with a strong but vulnerable hand, for free!

when you raise any bet on this river you aren't getting called by worse, imo you value owned yourself both on the turn and on the river, and i disagree with above that alot of the hands you beat make it to the river unimproved on the turn when you overbet like that. typically the hands you beat only call a bet that big if the think your full of shit. in which case they would just get it in with their sets and heart draws

i believe that playing the hand passively like this is suitable for any type of opponent. given that your opponent has the stats of a bad lag player, you should wonder why they allowed you the betting lead on the flop. usually a bad lag is bad because they're super aggro when the don't have it or have a marginal/vulnerable hand, and try to slowplay when they 'have it' hence missing value.

River seemed a value bet, I would raise flop if I had the Ah, I would check call turn, fold river easy