£20 NLHE 6-max: Blind v blind tough spot.

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Okay so the Villain here is an aggressive SB stealer with a stat of 50% SB steal. Things got pretty hot in here.

iPoker - £0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 235 BB
UTG: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 29.86, PFR: 20.94, 3Bet Preflop: 9.66, hands: 2,060)
CO: 169.75 BB (VPIP: 22.39, PFR: 13.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.21, Hands: 12,298)
BTN: 102 BB (VPIP: 24.03, PFR: 15.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.85, Hands: 6,120)
SB: 129.9 BB (VPIP: 20.20, PFR: 16.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 1,666)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: T:club:

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond: T:spade: 9:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 12.6 BB, SB raises to 38.35 BB, Hero ??

I really really don't like the idea of calling the turn and folding if we don't improve. Unless he is bluffing our top pair is most certainly beat so we are down to straight draw. And if we are facing QJ we are really screwed. We are also in big trouble against QTs/KTs/ATs. We don't really want him to have a set either.

Now if he has 2 pair then we are surely priced in to shove. The Villain hasn't done something like this before so I really don't think he is bluffing. The worst I'll give him here is a flush draw with an over card.

So then the difficult question comes, is it the right play to fold it? Or you think calling and folding turn is better? Or is our hand big enough to shove? We still have 100 BB left to play for.
 
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Just call preflop. JT plays really well on the flop, giving you at least a gutshot super often.

Check back the flop. Search the old posts for a concept called "BA/WB" (barely ahead/way behind) if you want more details.
 
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Just call preflop. JT plays really well on the flop, giving you at least a gutshot super often.

Check back the flop. Search the old posts for a concept called "BA/WB" (barely ahead/way behind) if you want more details.
I understand what you are talking about but this guy had never shown resistance so I had been 3 betting every time he stole.

And in my opinion JTo is still kinda mediocre hand that is also so much dominated.
 
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I understand what you are talking about but this guy had never shown resistance so I had been 3 betting every time he stole.

And in my opinion JTo is still kinda mediocre hand that is also so much dominated.
1) Seems like a great time to call pre. If you constantly abuse people's steals, they catch on and fight back. Vary up how you exploit their leaks.

2) Sure, JT can be dominated, but a 3-bet pot makes that worse. Call and play small pots with a jack top pair. By 3-betting and making top pair in a big SPR pot, you kinda have to go down with that pair.
 
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Yes I agree with what you are saying and I do actually call with hands like AQ/AJ/AT/KQ and middle pairs. I 3 bet premiums and mediocre hands.

Generally in these hands a c bet on the flop gets the job done. But I could have checked here as I won't like a 2 bet. I guess that's the problem of multi tabling you don't always fully think through a situation before you end up in a mess.

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Generally in these hands a c bet on the flop gets the job done.
You're thinking about this wrong. The goal here isn't to win the POT, it's to win MONEY. Sure cbetting gives us the pot about half the time, but it creates a big pot with our mediocre holding where we're likely to be check-raised.
 
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You're thinking about this wrong. The goal here isn't to win the POT, it's to win MONEY. Sure cbetting gives us the pot about half the time, but it creates a big pot with our mediocre holding where we're likely to be check-raised.
Yes and I win money when the SB folds to my C Bet which has been happening more than 50% of the times so it has been a vastly profitable thing for me so far.

We can fold our mediocre holding, take a note and move on. I always take notes in these B v B situations.

The problem is we happen to have a better than mediocre holding here but not exactly a monster. Not too many times one gets into a situation like this. The problem is further aggravated by the fact that he must know by now that my range is also pretty wide here which makes his potential range weaker which makes the decision even tougher for us. Ah poker can be mind numbing.

We must also take into account the general impact of 3 betting the SB like crazy on my overall 3 bet stat which is pretty significant I can tell you.

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