€20 NLHE 6-max: Acting on gut feelings / hunches ?

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€20 NL HE 6-max: Acting on gut feelings / hunches ?

The thing is, I haven't seen this villain's hands alot, but he was always betting/raising, being very aggressive. I had the distinct feeling he was triple barreling me with air here. But obvious logic told me to fold, therefor....shove or fold? What do you do in those situations?

€0.10/€0.20 No Limit Holdem
Entraction
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Shystrik (€19.28)
UTG+1 pezasesino (€26.43)
CO mgrB0cz3k (€20)
BTN Hero (€19.90)
SB kicfran (€17.51)
BB supermila (€83.26)

Pre-Flop: (€0.30, 6 players) Hero is BTN 10:spade: 9:club:
3 folds, Hero raises to €0.70, 1 fold, supermila calls €0.50

Flop: Q:club: J:heart: 6:diamond: (€1.50, 2 players)
supermila bets €1.50, Hero calls €1.50

Turn: A:spade: (€4.50, 2 players)
supermila bets €2.25, Hero calls €2.25

River: 7:diamond: (€9, 2 players)
supermila bets €4.50, Hero ????
 
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Because of your read and his stack size its possible it was a 3 barrel with air. But really, fold here. Actually if hes as aggressive as you say why not raise on the flop..or even better, on the turn?

In none of your hands do you mention what YOUR table image is here. Thats so important.
 
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Yeah, it might have been good to raise/shove the turn. As for my table image, I'm not too good at figuring that out. Perhaps I should work on it...
 
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What is villain's VPIP, donkbet %, fold donkbet to raise etc. ? and as mentioned what is the hand sample size?

My decision would normally be to raise the donkbet on the flop, we have an open ended straight draw, so flatting when villain has led out betting the pot isn't on, folding is better than calling unless you have a solid read he two barrels with air, in which case you call to raise the turn.

NL20 on entraction network - by and large a lot of the donkbets are weak. I can't really comment without further info, and I'm certainly not opening T9o from the button into a maniacs big blind. I can't comment further without the above stats. As played I'm folding the river, but flatting vs the donkbet on the flop and turn is the worst line you can take imo.
 
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SPCotter said:
What is villain's VPIP, donkbet %, fold donkbet to raise etc. ? and as mentioned what is the hand sample size?

My decision would normally be to raise the donkbet on the flop, we have an open ended straight draw, so flatting when villain has led out betting the pot isn't on, folding is better than calling unless you have a solid read he two barrels with air, in which case you call to raise the turn.

NL20 on entraction network - by and large a lot of the donkbets are weak. I can't really comment without further info, and I'm certainly not opening T9o from the button into a maniacs big blind. I can't comment further without the above stats. As played I'm folding the river, but flatting vs the donkbet on the flop and turn is the worst line you can take imo.
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Ok villain's stats were 57/14/60 but that's not too relevant with only 35 hands on him. As I said though, I did see him bet alot of pots, and I felt he was very bluffy.

I can definitely see what you're saying, I need to better plan my hands before I play them. Besides by the river my stack wasn't too big so I had very small fold equity to bluff at/

I did shove and he did fold, so it was a right read but I can definitely see it's -EV and I need to do this on the turn with players like him. Plus it would cost less as I wouldn't need to put all my stack in for it!
 
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I wouldn't wait until the turn. 100% of the time I raise him on the flop. Right then and there you will know if you're beat. At low stakes the player will fold immediately if he has nothing or he will call/re-raise you if he has an excellent hand. Its far too costly to wait until the river to do this or even the turn, especially when you have a hand that can't even beat a bluff.
 
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Wes747 said:
I wouldn't wait until the turn. 100% of the time I raise him on the flop. Right then and there you will know if you're beat. At low stakes the player will fold immediately if he has nothing or he will call/re-raise you if he has an excellent hand. Its far too costly to wait until the river to do this or even the turn, especially when you have a hand that can't even beat a bluff.
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Yeah same point you made on another hand of mine, seems I do this alot, thanks.
 
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His river bet sizing screams bet/fold. On the other hand you don't really rep anything when you shove so he probably hero calls you a lot. Meh I probably just fold.
 
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bubonicplay said:
His river bet sizing screams bet/fold. On the other hand you don't really rep anything when you shove so he probably hero calls you a lot. Meh I probably just fold.
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Like I said in the other thread you replied, pot-sized value bets are very common at 20NL at least on entraction, alot of the regs do them actually.

And so do I, if I think or know I have the better hand and villain will call my pot-size bet, why would I bet less?

It was a bluff this time, I did shove and he folded but that's an exception from what I've been seeing.
 
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Wait what? He half potted river and I never said anything about any pot-sized bets...
 
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bubonicplay said:
Wait what? He half potted river and I never said anything about any pot-sized bets...
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Ahhhh....stoopid me, was looking at the turn's pot size...forgot my own hand lol I should really pay more attention when posting :pcguru:
 
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