€20 NLHE 6-max: A tempting but pricey decision on the turn.

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 103 BB (VPIP: 97.73, PFR: 20.45, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, hands: 47)
Hero (BTN): 249.25 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.18, PFR: 17.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.76, Hands: 7,508)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:club: 7:club:

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, SB calls 1 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 2:spade: K:club: 5:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4.5 BB, SB calls 4.5 BB, BB calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (22.5 BB, 3 players) T:diamond:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 11.25 BB, SB raises to 39.35 BB, BB calls 39.35 BB, Hero ?

The SB has a set here almost every time. So my 2 pair/trips draw is not live. So I am down to an 8 outer here. The BB can have pretty much anything here so I am not worried about the BB flushing.

We can be reasonably certain here that all the money is going in OTR regardless of what comes. So it's almost very happening now that we hit the flush and everyone folds.

Just to add the SB may also have KT here which doesn't change much except that we have 9 outs then and the deuce of clubs won't be a disaster card.

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For sure nobody folds. SB has decided to move in on any river card and you just know that the fish is going all in with his KJ. You are getting around 3.3 to 1 but if you count in the implied odds you are getting 7.1 to 1 so i like call here. Your SPR is huge so you are not pot commited and can generate a fold on the river if the flush doesnt come.

If he is putting a player on a set, he is never getting a fold. If he calls his hand looks exactly what it is. Guess against the one villain you may have implied odds.

Why are you even betting the turn? What worse hands call and better hands fold? I would just be happy that you have some showdown value now and check this turn. As played, I would find a fold because someone could have a higher flush draw here and you have no real clean outs.

IPlay said:

Why are you even betting the turn? What worse hands call and better hands fold? I would just be happy that you have some showdown value now and check this turn. As played, I would find a fold because someone could have a higher flush draw here and you have no real clean outs.

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+1

IPlay said:

Why are you even betting the turn? What worse hands call and better hands fold? I would just be happy that you have some showdown value now and check this turn. As played, I would find a fold because someone could have a higher flush draw here and you have no real clean outs.

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Yes I regretted betting the turn but its kinda natural for me to bet in position when my hand improved. I can continue my story on the turn with 14 outs to improve. As long as we don't get re raised here we would not mind getting called.

The SB never has a flush draw here. As for BB well he is just playing way too badly to give him any sort of credit. Will just be a massive cooler to lose to him against a bigger 2 card flush.

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You still have to beat 2 players and you are drawing to a mediocre flush.I fold, nut flush I might call.
I nearly always take my free shot at my draw when it's checked to me. They are making the mistake giving you a free card so I look up give a little nod and take it. I prefer to save my semibluffs for when I'm drawing to the nuts.

Thinker_145 said:

Yes I regretted betting the turn but its kinda natural for me to bet in position when my hand improved. I can continue my story on the turn with 14 outs to improve. As long as we don't get re raised here we would not mind getting called.

The SB never has a flush draw here. As for BB well he is just playing way too badly to give him any sort of credit. Will just be a massive cooler to lose to him against a bigger 2 card flush.

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I agree with barreling when you gain equity but this hand is just sooo marginal in every way and you are barreling a weak 1/2 pot bet into a reg and a fish that probably doesn't fold often. SB range is already pretty tight when he calls the flop OOP multiway and I would say he at minimum has Kx, 99, 88, 22, 55 or a bigger flush draw and the parts of the range folding to that turn barrel is mostly hands you have crushed. Only hands I maybe see him folding that beat you are K7s, K8s, and K9s exactly which just isn't enough and probably not folding for 1/2 pot.

What range do you think SB makes it to the turn with and what parts of that range is calling/folding? I still think turn is a fold after this raise, you can literally be drawing dead here and you probably hate a river jam unless you miss and can fold happily.

IPlay said:

I agree with barreling when you gain equity but this hand is just sooo marginal in every way and you are barreling a weak 1/2 pot bet into a reg and a fish that probably doesn't fold often. SB range is already pretty tight when he calls the flop OOP multiway and I would say he at minimum has Kx, 99, 88, 22, 55 or a bigger flush draw and the parts of the range folding to that turn barrel is mostly hands you have crushed. Only hands I maybe see him folding that beat you are K7s, K8s, and K9s exactly which just isn't enough and probably not folding for 1/2 pot.

What range do you think SB makes it to the turn with and what parts of that range is calling/folding? I still think turn is a fold after this raise, you can literally be drawing dead here and you probably hate a river jam unless you miss and can fold happily.

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Exactly those sort of hands. He could also have A5s, I don't expect him to fold a better hand here but as you said he could have made it this far with lots of worse hands. With the fish still in the hand there is value to bet here I feel.

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Here's the full hand.

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 103 BB (VPIP: 97.73, PFR: 20.45, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 47)
Hero (BTN): 249.25 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.18, PFR: 17.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.76, Hands: 7,508)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:club: 7:club:

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, SB calls 1 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 2:spade: K:club: 5:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4.5 BB, SB calls 4.5 BB, BB calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (22.5 BB, 3 players) T:diamond:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 11.25 BB, SB raises to 39.35 BB, BB calls 39.35 BB, Hero calls 28.1 BB

River: (140.55 BB, 3 players) 4:club:
SB bets 53.15 BB, BB raises to 56.15 BB, Hero calls 56.15 BB

BB shows 9:diamond: 9:spade: (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [300 BB]: (Pre 55%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [6 BB]: (Pre 67%, Flop 55%, Turn 2%)

Hero shows T:club: 7:club: (Flush, King High)

Main Pot [300 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 25%, Turn 19%)
Side Pot#1 [6 BB]: (Pre 33%, Flop 45%, Turn 98%)

SB shows 2:club: 2:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Main Pot [300 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 69%, Turn 79%)

Hero wins 296 BB

So what's the verdict, am I guilty of lucking out here?

If u dont make it on the turn u dont make the call. Unless ur villain was just as deep

Verdict u got lucky and its -ev

Dont bet the turn u got extra equity but that is all... with all that was done u shouldve shoved allin on river missing value

The only reason we chase or reason i do is to chase knowing when it comes im getting it in on river when i c the club

So last 2 things i add mistake turn bet

Mistake not getting it in on riv

If u dont get it in on river why play these hands

Aces2w1n said:

Dont bet the turn u got extra equity but that is all... with all that was done u shouldve shoved allin on river missing value

The only reason we chase or reason i do is to chase knowing when it comes im getting it in on river when i c the club

So last 2 things i add mistake turn bet

Mistake not getting it in on riv

If u dont get it in on river why play these hands

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Eh everyone went all in on the river before my turn so hence why I just called.

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lol then just get the free card

OOP it's a bet/shove

sorry i played a bit too much lastnight and smorning, so i kinda miss things on my phone. Sorry bud and thanks for being polite.