$20 NLHE 6-max: 4Bet with AK ready to call a shove but he calls ?

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I dont remember the guys stats but he had like 36VP and 28Pfr and 60Afq or something, he was pretty aggresive,
What should i have done ?

Seat 1: SERSHELL ($16.16 in chips)
Seat 2: sokol47 ($16 in chips)
Seat 3: ImTh£Game ($16.16 in chips)
Seat 4: kapelinho ($18.63 in chips)
Seat 5: tadejusce ($16 in chips)
Seat 6: -tynh- ($25.95 in chips)
tadejusce: posts small blind $0.08
-tynh-: posts big blind $0.16
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ImTh£Game [Ad Kh]
SERSHELL: folds
sokol47: folds
ImTh£Game: raises $0.40 to $0.56
kapelinho: folds
tadejusce: folds
-tynh-: raises $0.88 to $1.44
ImTh£Game: raises $3.31 to $4.75
-tynh-: calls $3.31
*** FLOP *** [Jh 9s 3d]
-tynh-: checks
ImTh£Game: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 9s 3d] [6c]
-tynh-: bets $2.08
ImTh£Game: calls $2.08
*** RIVER *** [Jh 9s 3d 6c] [Jc]
-tynh-: checks
ImTh£Game: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-tynh-: shows [Td Tc] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
ImTh£Game: mucks hand
-tynh- collected $13.12 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.74 | Rake $0.62
Board [Jh 9s 3d 6c Jc]
Seat 1: SERSHELL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sokol47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ImTh£Game mucked [Ad Kh]
Seat 4: kapelinho (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tadejusce (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: -tynh- (big blind) showed [Td Tc] and won ($13.12) with two pair, Jacks and Tens

Thanks !
 
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1) Use a hand converter. Like this. This is like the third time we've told you.

2) Dont include the results of the hand.

All of this was requested of you in the guide at the top of the forum. If you want quality advice, do a quality job posting your hand. Dummy. (Lets see who spazzes out over this)

As for the hand itself, I think you couldve done 2 things differently.

1) 4-bet shove preflop. You get more folds this way. However, 4-betting to 25% of your stack is also not a huge error. I think against this guy I'd prefer to just get it in.

2) You could cbet this flop. Checking is okay as well, since J9Xr isnt the driest flop, and him check/raising KQ type stuff would be really bad. But if you had cbet here, I wouldnt hate it.

As played, I think the turn & river are fine. He'll show up with some bluffed overcards to make calling our bare AK profitable. But against bad lags, I just prefer to get the maximum in preflop.
 
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Your betting pre was too small.
After 4 betting pre you check the flop.
6 comes on the turn and you cold call a bet of 20% of the pot.
Then you check the river.
You showed no strength on the flop, but you call a 6 on the turn. What are you trying to represent? He was scared after checking the flop then betting so little on the turn then checking the river. Not trying to be mean about it, but you look like you had no idea of what you were doing there. If you shut down after the flop missed why call the turn without trying to make a move on the river. Id say with a good size bet on the river he folds and you take it down.
 
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I'm def c-betting to flop, I'm assuming your range here is something like AK, JJ+??? Ak is the only hand you could have that would check here, I'm pretty sure he folds to a cbet here.
 
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1) Use a hand converter. Like this. This is like the third time we've told you.

2) Dont include the results of the hand.

All of this was requested of you in the guide at the top of the forum. If you want quality advice, do a quality job posting your hand. Dummy. (Lets see who spazzes out over this)

As for the hand itself, I think you couldve done 2 things differently.

1) 4-bet shove preflop. You get more folds this way. However, 4-betting to 25% of your stack is also not a huge error. I think against this guy I'd prefer to just get it in.

2) You could cbet this flop. Checking is okay as well, since J9Xr isnt the driest flop, and him check/raising KQ type stuff would be really bad. But if you had cbet here, I wouldnt hate it.

As played, I think the turn & river are fine. He'll show up with some bluffed overcards to make calling our bare AK profitable. But against bad lags, I just prefer to get the maximum in preflop.
Yea i think 4bet all in would be the best option later on, Thanks !
 
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imo you should be c-betting nearly all of the time here, the minute you check that flop your range is basically AK or JJ and overpairs get taken out of the equation because you always c-bet QQ+. You are never going to win this hand at showdown, without hitting an A or K in 4 bet pot, you can occasionally chop it with other AK's but thats if it was to get checked down.
 
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imo you should be c-betting nearly all of the time here, the minute you check that flop your range is basically AK or JJ and overpairs get taken out of the equation because you always c-bet QQ+. You are never going to win this hand at showdown, without hitting an A or K in 4 bet pot, you can occasionally chop it with other AK's but thats if it was to get checked down.
If i cbet a calling station will call me with small pockets and i didnt have so much information... Should i anyway cbet ?
 
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1) Use a hand converter. Like this. This is like the third time we've told you.

2) Dont include the results of the hand.

All of this was requested of you in the guide at the top of the forum. If you want quality advice, do a quality job posting your hand. Dummy. (Lets see who spazzes out over this)

As for the hand itself, I think you couldve done 2 things differently.

1) 4-bet shove preflop. You get more folds this way. However, 4-betting to 25% of your stack is also not a huge error. I think against this guy I'd prefer to just get it in.

2) You could cbet this flop. Checking is okay as well, since J9Xr isnt the driest flop, and him check/raising KQ type stuff would be really bad. But if you had cbet here, I wouldnt hate it.

As played, I think the turn & river are fine. He'll show up with some bluffed overcards to make calling our bare AK profitable. But against bad lags, I just prefer to get the maximum in preflop.

Ditto
Although I defo prefer the check on the flop. I don't think bluffing aggro fish on wet flops is EV+
 
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