€20 NLHE 6-max: 33 in unraised pot - enough value?

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€20 NL HE 6-max: 33 in unraised pot - enough value?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 62/25/60

€0.10/€0.20 No Limit Holdem
Entraction
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG OmgSuckOut (€23.91)
CO eriko73 (€20.55)
BTN Hero (€49.64)
SB KKKettu (€21.69)
BB ilcapitano2 (€25.42)

Pre-Flop: (€0.30, 5 players) Hero is BTN 3:spade: 3:club:
1 fold, eriko73 calls €0.20, Hero calls €0.20, KKKettu calls €0.10, ilcapitano2 checks

Flop: Q:heart: 3:diamond: 6:spade: (€0.80, 4 players)
KKKettu checks, ilcapitano2 checks, eriko73 bets €0.40, Hero calls €0.40, KKKettu folds, ilcapitano2 folds

Turn: K:diamond: (€1.60, 2 players)
eriko73 bets €0.80, Hero calls €0.80

River: 10:heart: (€3.20, 2 players)
eriko73 bets €2.40, Hero raises to €8.40, eriko73 folds

Final Pot: €14

Hero wins €13.60 (net +€3.80)

ilcapitano2 lost €0.20
eriko73 lost €3.80
KKKettu lost €0.20

Was that loose guy bluffing totally, or could I have extracted more value from this hand?
 
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I would iso-raise the CO limper 100% of the time. It's easier to bluff with your 33 when you're the PFR than when it's a limped pot and most of the time you'll just pick up the dead money preflop.

Also, when you raise preflop, you help build a bigger pot which will help get stacks in when you hit your set.

As played, your line is perfectly fine. It's tough to narrow villain's range in a limped pot. Raising the flop might be better though because you want to build a bigger pot with your big hand so it'll be easier to get stacks in by the river.
 
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I would iso-raise the CO limper 100% of the time. It's easier to bluff with your 33 when you're the PFR than when it's a limped pot and most of the time you'll just pick up the dead money preflop.

Also, when you raise preflop, you help build a bigger pot which will help get stacks in when you hit your set.

As played, your line is perfectly fine. It's tough to narrow villain's range in a limped pot. Raising the flop might be better though because you want to build a bigger pot with your big hand, but its tough in a limped pot.

Hey, you again! :p

Ok I thought about raising... but... look at his stats, isn't it dead wrong to raise 33 against someone that's 62/25/60? Not to mention there were 5 callers in total...

I'm not contradicting you in any way btw, just trying to learn this stuff.. thanks!
 
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Haha, ya I'm sitting bored in class so I thought I'd scope out the forums

The only reason there's 5 callers is because it's a limped pot. If you raise to isolate the limper they'll most likely all fold anyways.

You want to be isolating him even more often if his VPIP/PFR is so high because he'll miss a TON of flop when he calls preflop so the raise->cbet line will be extremely profitable vs. these kinds of villains. :)
 
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Haha, ya I'm sitting bored in class so I thought I'd scope out the forums

The only reason there's 5 callers is because it's a limped pot. If you raise to isolate the limper they'll most likely all fold anyways.

You want to be isolating him even more often if his VPIP/PFR is so high because he'll miss a TON of flop when he calls preflop so the raise->cbet line will be extremely profitable vs. these kinds of villains. :)

Alright. With the exception of them being calling stations too, I guess :D
 
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Ya, I know what you mean about the calling stations arguement but even calling stations need to hit some kind of piece of the flop to continue. So, on dry flops like these, cbetting against is UBER profitable lol
 
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