$20 NLHE 6-max: 2pair facing triple barrel on monotone flop

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Villain is completely unknown, this is just his 2nd hand at the table so ignore the stats below for him because I didn't have them at the time of the hand. Note that that the limper is a huge fish.

888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $33.24 (VPIP: 77.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 41)
SB: $18.05 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
Hero (BB): $38.04
UTG: $21.98 (VPIP: 26.08, PFR: 20.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.84, Hands: 384)
CO: $20.00 (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 177)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has A:diamond: Q:club:

fold, fold, BTN calls $0.20, SB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40, 3 players) K:club: 2:club: A:club:
SB bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, fold

Turn: ($6.00, 2 players) Q:spade:
SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($15.00, 2 players) 9:spade:
SB bets $10.95 (all in),
 
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I have no idea what you can beat here but there are some hands that beat you. IMO nothing improved his hand from flop to river .
I am interested to see what experienced members will say here.
 
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yea there aren't that many flushes in his range since the A,K,Q are all out. Guess besides flushes his value range is AA,KK,AK,22 and i guess potentially A2,A9,KQ that we beat. Have no idea how bad he is though, don't know if he's ever pure bluffing or spaz doing this with like AJ. Guess it's probably quite an easy fold against an unknown looking at it now
 
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yea there aren't that many flushes in his range since the A,K,Q are all out. Guess besides flushes his value range is AA,KK,AK,22 and i guess potentially A2,A9,KQ that we beat. Have no idea how bad he is though, don't know if he's ever pure bluffing or spaz doing this with like AJ. Guess it's probably quite an easy fold against an unknown looking at it now
That was my reasoning too. There is another thing. His betsize and the amount he was left with to shove the river. It is like he is begging you to call the river.
 
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if it was a reg I'd be inclined to call but seing that he doesn't have 100BB stack we can suppose he's not a reg, therefore it's less likely that he's 3barreling as a bluff on such a board so I'd fold.
 
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I don't think about that he has flush. I think that he is with AA,KK,QQ or AK. That's my opinion.
 
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Against a flat caller he should never be bluffing here. Your range is so transparent that it isn't even about balancing. Regs are never bluffing here because your range is just so obvious.

I can live with a flop peel. Turn is a clear fold.
 
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u fold the turn with 2 pair + nut flush draw?
 
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Is he betting a worse hand?

I doubt it. You have an unknown who is firing into you in a situation where he is OOP and your line reeks of strength, in fact your line can rarely contain anything worse than TT/AQ. Against that range he is never going to double barrel bluff this board. Which only leaves value hands, none of which we beat. Through this line of thought we now know that we are behind, yet we have a draw. The problem is that he isn't giving us the outs to draw and our implied odds are nonexistent because he shuts down when the 4th club hits.


In short. You are behind and have no implied odds to make drawing a +EV decision.

You need to stop thinking simply about your hand strength, that is what bad players do. Start taking into consideration as many factors as possible and you will make better decisions.
 
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Sorry. I made a mistake. Not used to seeing 20NL. I'll also blame the late hour and lack of sleep.

I thought you flat called a 3Bet. Which clearly you didn't. This changes the thought process somewhat however I still fold the turn. It's rare that a micro stakes player is aggressive enough to bet into you with AxJc here and that's about the only hand you beat.

Again, don't only consider your hand strength before deciding to act. There are numerous other avenues of information that you can access that will help your decisions.


Once again, apologies for mis-reading the HH.
 
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This line makes me want to put him on the nuts or nothing...I don't see how he could possibly triple barrel the river, even with pocket Aces, when a flush is easily in your range. The only flush in his range, reasonably speaking, is J10c. Gotta be a call, no?
 
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I didn't realize we have the nut FD. So folding turn becomes difficult.

River shove is pretty easy with AK+.
 
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22 maybe, he just calls 20 cents, then when hes sees that the pot is 1.8$ hes got 3/1 to call 60 cents and he decides to call with 22 ... i think its a possibility
 
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