$2 NLHE Full Ring: Would you bet this river?

Since I flopped top pair I had to call the flop and turn and since he cooled down on the river it was right to think I probably had the best hand right?


PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $2.26
BB: $1.77
UTG: $2.06
UTG+1: $3.38
Hero (MP): $2.40
MP+1: $2.00
LP: $2.00
CO: $2.00
BTN: $0.96
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, LP posts DB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero has Q♦ K♣

UTG raises to $0.08, fold, Hero calls $0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.21, 2 players) 5♦ Q♥ 7♠
UTG bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.51, 2 players) T♠
UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.31, 2 players) 8♠
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.62, UTG calls $0.62

Hero shows Q♦ K♣ (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 9%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

No way

What did you think he had? He raised UTG, and bet both on the flop and turn.

If you think he was bluffing, betting is pointless-he won't call.

If you think he hit (at least top pair)...you're way behind his range.

Check river for sure.

I'm pretty sure I say this on around 50% of threads but fold pre.

Fold preflop.

What are his stats?

When you bet the river, what will he call with that's worse than your hand?

If there isn't a reasonable probability that he'll call with worse, then why bet? If he's folding, you were pretty likely to win at showdown anyway, and you win the same size pot whether you bet or check behind. And if his calling range has a low proportion of hands you beat, you lose more when you bet and he calls than when you check behind. So betting is very likely -EV.

The other possible reason to bet is to get a better hand to fold. Since you bet a bit under half pot, he has to fold about 35% of the times he has a better hand for you to break even. Plus there's some chance you'll walk into a check-raise that you probably don't want to call but might feel obliged to since you already put in half your stack. Bleh.

But you shouldn't get to the river anyway. The straightforward action is to fold pre-. Since you called instead, it's easy to understand continuing after flopping TPGK in position. But most 2nl players aren't barreling the turn with a worse hand, so absent any contradictory reads, I fold to his turn bet.

Im folding but I have been playing tight the last year with all the shove donking going on. MAybe you see a flop but get away from the hand when its an UTG situation being aggressive and you dont have a real strong hand. THere are better places to spend ur BR.

3 bet or fold pre, probably fold.. as played check back on the river

I made a real effort at trying to find reasons to call here preflop, but there really isn't one. Just fold.

And fold the turn once you mistakenly call pre. Noobs at 2NL don't 2-barrel KJ or AT here I don't think. Course its been years since I've played down there, but I doubt you're against a range with any bluffs once the villain fires the turn.

Poker_play said:

No way

What did you think he had? He raised UTG, and bet both on the flop and turn.

If you think he was bluffing, betting is pointless-he won't call.

If you think he hit (at least top pair)...you're way behind his range.

Check river for sure.

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never bet river here ever. gtfo on the turn imo

BlueNowhere said:

I'm pretty sure I say this on around 50% of threads but fold pre.

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lol so true, still so applicable here though!

Just through KQ away pre-flop.

The guy raised UTG and probably has KQ crushed.