$2 NLHE Full Ring: Two different flush draw hands

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Hey guys. Ive been going over my hand history and have a question about these two flush draw hands I played. One I played very aggressively and the other I played really passively. Im still not sure how to play draws well, especially against LAGs in short stack games where the max Buy in is 100 BB.


Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
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SB: $2.15
BB: $6.22
UTG: $4.46
UTG+1: $2
MP: $1.96
MP+1: $2
MP+2 Hero: $2
CO: $2
BTN: $2.14

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP+2 and dealt :kh4: :ks4:
2 folds, MP raises to $0.08, MP+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 3 folds, BB calls $0.22, MP folds

Flop: ($0.57) :5s4: :3s4: :as4: (2 players)
BB bets $5.98 (All-in), Hero calls $1.76 (All-in)

Turn: ($8.31) :5s4: :3s4: :as4: :6c4: (2 players)

Initial raiser is semi tight with VPIP of 20 and PFR of 10. Villain is a super loose player with VPIP of 85 and PFR of 18 out of 55 hands. Ive seen villain call many raises and act as a calling station down to the river.

The flop is bad for my Kings because of the Ace but villain has been bullying me with insta shoves on the flop to push me off my hands throughout the session so far. I did not put villain on a flush since the Ace was on the board and I had the King. I felt I was ahead and even if behind, I had 9 outs to make the nut flush which is why I called.


Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
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SB: $0.82
BB: $3.36
UTG Hero: $2.03
UTG+1: $2.18
MP: $0.80 (sitting out)
MP+1: $2
MP+2: $1.66
CO: $2
BTN: $0.80 (sitting out)

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG and dealt :ac4: :jc4:
Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, MP+2 calls $0.08, CO folds, SB calls $0.07, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.32) :7c4: :4c4: :kh4: (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP+2 checks

Turn: ($0.32) :7c4: :4c4: :kh4: :3s4: (6 players)
SB bets $0.08, BB folds, Hero calls $0.08, MP+2 folds

River: ($0.48) :7c4: :4c4: :kh4: :3s4: :6d4: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

I decided to play AJs even though I was UTG because there were only 7 people which made me UTG+2 or MP where I felt AJs would be playable. First caller is a passive nit with VPIP of 16 and PFR of 2.5 after 155 hands. The second caller is super loose with VPIP of 50 and PFR of 23 after 55 hands. The third caller is a reg with VPIP of 43 and PFR of 20 after 482 hands.

I connect a little with the flop but not as much as I would like, with only a draw to the nut flush and no pair. I choose not to cbet because I am up against 3 opponents and the reg knows I am aggressive and has used that against me in the past to valuetown myself. I dont hit my flush at the end.

Since I play with 100bb (which is the max), I try to stay away from speculative hands like Axs or suited connectors, only really using them for stealing opportunities from SB and BTN while i try to play with broadway and medium to high PP. Thus, I am really bad playing with straight and flush draws and dont know how to play them or how to max value from them. I know you should bet a draw but if against calling stations, wouldn't a semi-bluff still just be throwing money down the drain if I dont hit which is about 2/3 of the time?
 
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Hand 1: shove is lol. I think it could be a fold but i'd prob just angersnap.
Hand 2: Cbet the flop
 
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Hand 1 seems fine based on the villain.
Cbet the flop in hand 2 100%.
 
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Hand 1 is close. We need to be ahead a good portion of the time. If villain has Ax we have 11 outs, if villain has a flush we have 7. Ax and sooted hands are a big part of a fishes range. Meh I call given your history with him.

Hand 2 bet the flop and make it big. You have the nut flush draw we want to build a big pot for when we hit and get us some fold equity.
As played I'm fine with the turn and river. You had odds to call the turn and have a little showdown value on the river. That and villain appears fishy be arsed bluffing him.
 
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For the second hand cbet, I usually cbet about 2/3 pot and sometimes double barrel on the turn to see if I can take the pot down. Is 2/3 pot big enough or should I bet 1/2 or more? If I dont hit the flush by the turn, should I shut down or keep double barreling?
 
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What I meant is do I bet less like around 1/2 or more than 2/3 like 3/4 or near pot? Sorry my wording was bad.
 
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