$2 NLHE Full Ring: Trip Aces facing shove on flop. Was this a good fold?

888 Poker NLHE 0.01c/0.02c - Full Ring Game - 7 Players

Button ($2.04)
SB ($0.92)
BB ($3.93)
UTG ($0.49)
Hero (UTG+1) ($5.73)
MP ($2)
Villain (CO) ($4.04)

Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 with
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Villain calls $0.08, 1 fold, SB calls $0.07, 2 folds


Flop: ($0.27) (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Villain bets $0.14, SB calls $0.14, Hero raises to $0.65, Villain raises to $3.96 (all-in), SB folds, Hero folds

Was this a good fold here? Should I have led out on the flop? Did I do anything wrong in this hand? Perhaps was AJo too weak to raise pre-flop in EP. I don't think I could have done much more to win this pot but it's good to get the opinion of people who know what they are talking about.

He told me what hand he had later afterwards but I won't say what that hand was. Maybe someone can guess it? Surely those only a few hands he could shove with in that spot?

A/J is to weak to check-raise here, just lead out on the flop. If you get raised by a decent amount then I would fold. A/Q fits perfectly here for villain.

Minimal chance of AQ. Almost nobody in 2NL bets out when they flop a full house.

Depending on villain this can be any 77+, Axs hand.

He has worse Aces here quite often. No way it's a fold.

WVHillbilly said:

He has worse Aces here quite often. No way it's a fold.

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They are 200BB's deep, even if it is 2nl I don't see worse aces showing up here often enough at all. I don't play 2nl but the average player there can't be that bad I would have thought to shove 200bb's with A rag. I would think they would just flat call it down.

Yoshimiii said:

They are 200BB's deep, even if it is 2nl I don't see worse aces showing up here often enough at all. I don't play 2nl but the average player there can't be that bad I would have thought to shove 200bb's with A rag. I would think they would just flat call it down.

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No. They're that bad. Any Ace is the nuts.

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Yup

Often an overbet in 1c2c is often a bluff...And you just call because most of the time you'll win the hand and if you loose meh it's not so bad.

I did think long and hard about this one but I eventually made the fold as this player had a 200bb stack and didn't seem to be one of the usual idiots at this level so I mucked it.

He told afterwards that he had AK so if he was telling the truth I made a good laydown this time but against most opponents at these stakes that would be a call.

Well, how often are opponents cold calling AQ/AK OOP at your stakes? That's going to basically be your determining factor, but even being deep you probably have enough of his range crushed.

If your read is that he wasn't bad, but he's flatting AK OOP against multiple opponents (most likely), then that's tough. Those statements conflict a bit.

In general though lead the flop because you don't want to push people off their Qx and really weak Ax hands.

John A said:

Well, how often are opponents cold calling AQ/AK OOP at your stakes? That's going to basically be your determining factor, but even being deep you probably have enough of his range crushed.

If your read is that he wasn't bad, but he's flatting AK OOP against multiple opponents (most likely), then that's tough. Those statements conflict a bit.

In general though lead the flop because you don't want to push people off their Qx and really weak Ax hands.

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He wasn't out of position. He was in CO. I was UTG+1. I agree that flatting AK makes little sense but it could be AQ which is what I read him as having.

Gotcha, I guess I misread it. Could be AQ, seems strange that he'd shove it, but it's probable.