$2 NLHE Full Ring: T5os on BB checked tough river spot decision

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

LP:35/0/1 over 35 hands
sb:12/0/1 over 8 hands

well opponents are uknown

BTN: $1.97
SB: $1.98
Hero (BB): $2.55
UTG: $1.07
UTG+1: $1.87
MP: $1.90
MP+1: $2.89
LP: $2.33
CO: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5:club: T:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) J:spade: T:spade: T:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.04, LP calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.24, 4 players) 5:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, LP calls $0.20, fold, SB calls $0.20

River: ($0.84, 3 players) Q:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.64, LP raises to $1.30, SB raises to $1.72 and is all-in, fold, LP calls $0.42

what would you do on the river? would you play this hand different?
 
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I would bet bigger on flop probably 0.08 and I'm calling the river. You beat so much of there range. (KJ QK AJ QJ busted flush draws) You can rule out AK as they would have raised preflop It's a definite call
 
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Fold. Also bet bigger OTF, most hands that call are Jacks or draws, so charge them.
 
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Dude that's one bad hero fold

Didn't realise he had a full house lol, such a bad fold on river, villains probably don't have JJ, QQ and their is only one other 10 in the deck, easy call.
 
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.97
SB: $1.98
Hero (BB): $2.55
UTG: $1.07
UTG+1: $1.87
MP: $1.90
MP+1: $2.89
LP: $2.33
CO: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5:club: T:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) J:spade: T:spade: T:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.04, LP calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.24, 4 players) 5:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, LP calls $0.20, fold, SB calls $0.20

River: ($0.84, 3 players) Q:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.64, LP raises to $1.30, SB raises to $1.72 and is all-in, fold, LP calls $0.42

[spoil]SB shows 8:heart: 9:heart: (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 19%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
LP shows J:club: J:diamond: (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 81%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
LP wins $4.75


i don't care for the result, i didn't put him on JJ but i put him a hand like QT or JT and with 2 players in the pot going all in i thought i was beaten thats why i fold. But i asked you for this hand to know if its wrong my fold here and i also i forgot to ask if i'm pot commited or no?
 
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.97
SB: $1.98
Hero (BB): $2.55
UTG: $1.07
UTG+1: $1.87
MP: $1.90
MP+1: $2.89
LP: $2.33
CO: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5<font color='black'>♣</font> T<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) J<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♣</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $0.04, LP calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.24, 4 players) 5<font color='red'>♦</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, LP calls $0.20, fold, SB calls $0.20

River: ($0.84, 3 players) Q<font color='black'>♣</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $0.64, LP raises to $1.30, SB raises to $1.72 and is all-in, fold, LP calls $0.42

[spoil]SB shows 8<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font> (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 19%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
LP shows J<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font> (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 81%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
LP wins $4.75


i don't care for the result, i didn't put him on JJ but i put him a hand like QT or JT and with 2 players in the pot going all in i thought i was beaten thats why i fold. But i asked you for this hand to know if its wrong my fold here and i also i forgot to ask if i'm pot commited or no?

In general never fold a full house that uses both your hold cards or one where you trip up the larger pair on board...
I don't have exact calculations but at 2nl, they can definitely show up with really stupid shit here. Even AA KK is not out of the question in this hand.

You've been laid down odds of roughly 4.5 :1 to call the river, for sake of simplicity let's assume only one of your opponents holds the 'nuts' and other is lolbad random hand because assuming both have nuts = retarded.

You lose to QT, JT, QQ and JJ, total of 18 combos

If you can but name at least 5 combos which they will do this which you can beat, you are already right to call.

Don';t you think AT and KT may also play this way? 8 comboes
AQ, KQ may too, 18 comboes though prolly stretching it
QJ, 9 comboes
What about the 55? 1 combo.

Also AK, a whopping 16 comboes.

You are more than half the time ahead assuming this range of possible hands. Call it, and please never fold another full house made with both your hole cards.
 
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In general never fold a full house that uses both your hold cards or one where you trip up the larger pair on board...
I don't have exact calculations but at 2nl, they can definitely show up with really stupid shit here. Even AA KK is not out of the question in this hand.

You've been laid down odds of roughly 4.5 :1 to call the river, for sake of simplicity let's assume only one of your opponents holds the 'nuts' and other is lolbad random hand because assuming both have nuts = retarded.

You lose to QT, JT, QQ and JJ, total of 18 combos

If you can but name at least 5 combos which they will do this which you can beat, you are already right to call.

Don';t you think AT and KT may also play this way? 8 comboes
AQ, KQ may too, 18 comboes though prolly stretching it
QJ, 9 comboes
What about the 55? 1 combo.

Also AK, a whopping 16 comboes.

You are more than half the time ahead assuming this range of possible hands. Call it, and please never fold another full house made with both your hole cards.

thanks for your answer its really very helpfull, i will take it seriously in consideration!
 
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what? hero fold on that river at 2nl??? really? pfff. CALL, at these limits idiots show up with many shitty hands. And raise bigger on the flop.
 
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