$2 NLHE Full Ring: So, why did I do this? What if you was villian here and encountered this?

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$2 NLHE Full Ring: So, why did I do this? What if you was villian here and encountered this?

I really want to see how good some of you really are, so lets see it!

Here is a funny one I had last night. Tell me what you think, I'm actually hiding my holecards for the purpose of seeing how good people are at reading a hand on here and villians hand. I will post results after I've had a few replies, but looking at the board and the whole thing what are you thoughts?

I think this is a fun Hand Analysis and would love to see what people think of the whole betting rounds and the shove on the river, what was a I repping maybe? Did I miss a draw, hit something or what? What on earth could UTG call with here with a massive over bet on the river, surely can only beat a bluff at this point or did I totally donk off a stack for whatever reason..

Go Go!

Can't wait for some replies.

I've got no idea on the villians stats by the way which might make it more difficult.


Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (9 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $1.42
BB: $4.60
UTG: $1.35
UTG+1: $1.77
MP: $6.39
MP+1: $1.66
MP+2 Hero: $2.10
CO: $5.05
BTN: $2.14

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP+2
UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.02, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.07) :3h4: :ac4: :jc4: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB folds, UTG calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.19) :3h4: :ac4: :jc4: :8h4: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.19) :3h4: :ac4: :jc4: :8h4: :qd4: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.02 (All-in), UTG calls $1.27 (All-in), Hero returned $0.75
 
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Your line looks like crap with whatever you had
 
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you have 88 and villian has QT of clubs obviously.


(p.s. I have no idea)
 
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Your line looks like crap with whatever you had

I'm not doubting that for a minute, hence the question. I guess you can't put me on anything? Which I guess is good thing ;)
 
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If I'm villain i put you on junk but I'm still only calling you with straights and two pairs(i obv don't have tp because i wouldve bet the flop) because there's only .19 cents in the pot and it's not worth a call with bottom or3rd pair or Kx
 
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Read on villain is that he's bad (less than full stack, limped UTG). Bad players aren't folding any Ace to your river shove. Lots of them won't be folding any Jack.

Read on you is that you're bad as well. You failed to iso the limper preflop and then took the worst possible line for any hand you might have here because you didn't bet the turn.
 
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Ok thanks, I do know I played it bad, like really bad..

If I'm villain i put you on junk but I'm still only calling you with straights and two pairs(i obv don't have tp because i wouldve bet the flop) because there's only .19 cents in the pot and it's not worth a call with bottom or3rd pair or Kx

Yeah, that was the line I took so the reason I shoved.

I think you'll be chillin' at 2NL for a while longer.

Yeah, I don't doubt that in the slightish either.

Read on villain is that he's bad (less than full stack, limped UTG). Bad players aren't folding any Ace to your river shove. Lots of them won't be folding any Jack.

Read on you is that you're bad as well. You failed to iso the limper preflop and then took the worst possible line for any hand you might have here because you didn't bet the turn.

Yeah I realised I played it bad, the limp was bad and the betting was dreadful.

All this taken into account, my read was also that he was a bad player (I'm not saying I'm good either as I know I'm not!) and highly likely to call a shove with any pair and I actually did think he might of thought "He missed the flush draw so trying to buy the pot" Now I realise he most likely never thought this but hmf.

River: ($0.19) :3h4: :ac4: :jc4: :8h4: :qd4: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.02 (All-in), UTG calls $1.27 (All-in), Hero returned $0.75

Final Pot: $2.73

Showdown:
Hero shows :10c4: :kc4: (a straight, Ten to Ace)
UTG shows :10h4: :qs4: (a pair of queens)
Outcome: Hero wins $2.60

So with all this, I bet the flop correctly, right? nut flush and gut shot straight draw. Are you saying I should bet the turn? I do realise I should never of limped to start with and if entering the pot in MP then raising it up PF?

I did think he might of called with any pair anyway that's why I shoved the river as I looked weak and played it terrible..so how should I of played the hand out if I was going to replay this hand all over? Raise PF?

As for the bet by the way, I've never do this sort of play before, but I'm wondering If I should. I've noticed players do it before and people fold or call thinking either "repping a bluff but has nuts" or the opposite "trying to buy the pot" I think this play is more profitable at 2nl than say just betting for value one the river? The amount of times I bet for value on a board and hand similar to this - they quite often would fold yet massive over bet more likely induces a call sometimes? What do you think?
 
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Turn is an easy bet and hope to get it all in. You do realise you have a royal flush draw right? Please raise to .12 pre too
 
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Turn is an easy bet and hope to get it all in. You do realise you have a royal flush draw right? Please raise to .12 pre too

Yeah I do realise this, thanks ;)

You would get it all in on the turn if needs be? Is that really profitable?

What about overbetting like the river at 2nl? Isn't it more profitable than value betting a good hand as opposed to shoving the river. Aren't players at these limits instantly thinking with such a small pot "he is bluffing, my top pair is usually good here" lol.
 
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Bet the turn to build the pot AND to get value from draws that probably won't call another bet on the river.
 
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Thread delivers for comedy value. I put you on KT coz that's what fish like limpin and follows with the flop/turn and river cards.
As said raise to isolate and bet flop bet turn bet river.
 
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what everyone else said, but if i was thrown into an alternate universe and ended up with those plays on the river, i think the shove is good.
 
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