$2 NLHE Full Ring: Shove with AK on 2Q3 board?

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De Burgermeester

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This is the first hand I play at the table. I have no information about any of the other players whatsoever except their stack sizes. I'm in the big blind [stack of 100 bb] with :ah4: :kc4:.

2 players limp, villain on the button [stack of 51 bb] raises to 5 big blinds and the small blind folds. I want to see what he is all about and raise to 12,5 big blinds. Everyone folds and the button raises to 20 big blinds. I call.

Flop comes :2c4: :qd4: :3c4: . I start with a check and villain bets 20 big blinds. I see he has only 11 big blinds left and I don't think he has queens, kings or aces so I raise to 40 big blinds. Villain calls and is all in. I see his cards :as4: :10h4: and I think I got him since I have 86% equity and he is way behind.

But then on the turn and river comes :10d4: :10c4: and villain makes trips.

What do you think about my play? Was it a bad play? Did I play this hand too aggressive? Or just bad luck?
 
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MinhANguyen

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3-bet was too small. Personally I'd shove against an isolation raise from a half-stack. There's no room for us to play poker postflop, and we maximize fold equity. Also it makes us look like we're FOS, so you can expect to get called off sometimes by dominated hands like AQ/AJ/KQ, and of course if they had JJ/QQ/KK/AA the money was getting in anyway.

We are never 3-betting/raising/re-raising to see "where we are at." For 50bb I'm always jamming in AK. We get tons of folds, we pick up the dead money, and when we get called off (which is not as often as you think), we're usually either a favorite or coin flip.

Mistake was preflop, and I think check-folding flop is better as played. 4-bet ranges are super narrow below 100NL, and you just happened to run into a spewy maniac who decided to get creative with A10o. You're either crushed or splitting.
 
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I think the preflop action was the biggest mistake in the hand. Your initial 3bet should have been much bigger. Your goal in this spot should be to play against one opponent. Since 2 players limped in before the villain's first raise, your 3bet needs to be much larger. The rule of thumb for 3betting is to raise at least 3x the size of the opening raise and you should add a little extra for every other player in the pot. (So in this case somewhere around 17bb-20bb.) This way you can discourage the limpers from calling with mediocre hands because they will be getting terrible pot odds.
Once the villain 4bets to 20bb, you should probably just go ahead and move all in. If you just call the 4bet, the pot will be about 45bb and you are almost never going to fold on the flop no matter what the cards are. If he moves all in on the flop, you will be getting about 2.5 to 1 pot odds and I'm calling that with AK all day long. By just calling the 4bet you are allowing the villain to see the flop before he decides to go all in. He may see a terrible flop and decide to hold on to his remaining 30bb.
Obviously if you both got all in preflop, it would not have made a difference this time. He would still get lucky and win the hand. However, if you had moved all in instead of calling the 4bet, he may have folded. Basically, keep the pressure on when you think you are ahead. Don't give the villain an opportunity back out if he misses the flop.
Good Luck
 
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Thanks guys, this helps a lot!:D
 
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