$2 NLHE Full Ring: Should I call pre flop and is semi-bluff ok?

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Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $1.93
BB: $4.14
UTG: $2 (sitting out)
UTG+1: $2.31 (sitting out)
MP: $2.16
MP+1: $2 (sitting out)
MP+2: $0.58
CO Hero: $2
BTN: $4.44

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO and dealt :qd4: :ad4:
MP calls $0.02, MP+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.24, MP calls $0.22, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.73) :kd4: :3d4: :10h4: (6 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.52, BB calls $0.52, MP folds

Turn: ($1.77) :kd4: :3d4: :10h4: :qs4: (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.24 (All-in), BB calls $1.24

River: ($4.25) :kd4: :3d4: :10h4: :qs4: :ah4: (5 players)

Looking at it now I should not have bet the turn, but I got he Q and figured he might not have much since he kept checking.

But mainly in doubt as to call pre-flop, but got good odds.
 
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How good your odds are pre- isn't just a matter of looking at 0.16 to call with 0.57 already in the pot. Sure, 3.5:1 is attractive, but the important question is whether it's attractive enough given the other players, their likely ranges, the action so far, the effective stacks / implied odds, your position, how likely you are to get a flop that's good enough to continue, etc.

I don't know if I would have called because part of the decision is player-dependent. What I'm saying is just that if all you considered was the pot odds, it would have been better served to consider more whether you arrived at the same action or not. .
 
Demonomania

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I don't see anything wrong with your call pre or anything you did ATF.
 
dooydoo

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His 3b preflop is 3x your raise which is pretty much the average sized 3bet. If you think you have good odds here then you will be thinking you have good odds just about every time you get 3bet.

I dont fold to min 3bets but other than that i need to base my calling range or 4betting range on the villain tendencies. Since you didnt post any stats i think calling and folding here are both ok. Its not a great spot vs an unkown but due to the positions you might be ok.

I like betting the flop when xed to because we have a lot of fold equity. I imagine he would have cbet anything of value.

On the turn im thinking about xing it back because if we bet what worse is going to call us. Not sure JJ is calling again even with the straight draw because he is way behind. We beat all his flush draws. AJ gets there, any Kx hand is way ahead. We have good showdown and a good redraw so im thinking about xing it back here and seeing what happens on the river.
 
JCgrind

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id check back turn and bluffcatch/ship if i bink. so much money at 2nl comes from letting others bluff into you- plus as dooydoo said, you arent getting called by anything worse unless hes a total spud
 
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