$2 NLHE Full Ring: River bet facing raise and caller

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Hold'em No Limit- $0.01/$0.02 - 8 players

UTG: $1.90 (95 bb)
UTG+1: $1.42 (71 bb)
MP: $0.70 (35 bb) TAG
MP+1: $1.39 (70 bb)
CO: $2.00 (100 bb)
BU: $2.02 (101 bb) LAG
SB (Hero): $3.04 (152 bb)
BB: $2.92 (146 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 4 5
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, 2 players fold, BTN raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.03, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.18) A 3 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.18) J (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.18) J (4 players)
Hero bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.34, BTN calls $0.34, Hero raises to $1.10, UTG+1 folds, MP calls $0.32 (all-in), BTN calls $0.76

I reraised here to extract more value from KJ,QJ but certainly can be losing to full houses like AA/AJ/33/22.

Would you instead call or fold?
 
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So you flop the nuts and nobody took the lead on the flop. I think you have to bet the turn for both value and protection against draws on a board that just got very wet.

As the hand was played, I am calling the river raise. The pre flop min raise feels a little like a nitty raise with AA afraid of folding everyone out with a bigger raise. It feels like someone is slow playing a flopped set, or someone is on AJ. You are against multiple players on a paired board, don't re-open the action. That said, I am never folding. Too many naked Jack's or AK hands and great pot odds. My opinion anyway.
 
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Bet the flop, bet the turn. Be more inclined to lead multiway since people are less likely to cbet.
 
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No one had flop action, I believe the best move would be to bet on the turn, you could lose values ​​of possible draws, some pairs, some J, check would let the villains improve their hands for free, and you lose the opportunity of value, it is not enough to have good hands if you do not know how to extract value from them.
 
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Call me a nit if you must, but I'm folding preflop. As played I'm DEFINITELY betting turn. People who haven't had the opportunity to bet in flow yet may not even bet with A5-A7 type hands so we lose value vs that as well as Jx and draws. There's really no guarantee we ever get someone to bluff at it either.

As played, I don't mind jamming river, though we obviously will lose a pretty non-zero portion of the time when called. But I think there is a pretty sizable portion of Jx that will raise/call it here.
 
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Thanks, I expected someone to bet for value on the flop/turn if they have Ax/Jx/22/33 but clearly that table is very passive. Leading turn does make sense to extract value from weaker aces, Jx ,two pairs and flush draws.

MP and BTN had QJ,KJ respectively and luckily no one slow-played sets.
 
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I already knew btw the villains reacts on the flop and turn,nice call.
 
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