$2 NLHE Full Ring: Really weird line

$2 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Table Table 201852 (No DP) (real money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9/9
Seat 2: ClubArrow77 ( $2.08 USD )
Seat 5: Old0Shaman ( $1.83 USD )
Seat 1: charliekill ( $2 USD )
Seat 6: kiki045 ( $0.95 USD )
Seat 4: korhun12 ( $0.91 USD )
Seat 8: magnezia ( $2 USD )
Seat 9: richiefromlv ( $2.14 USD )
Seat 3: vovatheplaya ( $1.97 USD )
Seat 7: ziom0700 ( $2.39 USD )
magnezia posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
richiefromlv posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ClubArrow77 [ Ac 5c ]
ClubArrow77 raises [$0.05 USD]
vovatheplaya folds
korhun12 will be using his time bank for this hand.
korhun12 folds
Old0Shaman folds
kiki045 calls [$0.05 USD]
ziom0700 folds
magnezia folds
richiefromlv calls [$0.03 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 3h, 5d ]
richiefromlv checks
ClubArrow77 bets [$0.08 USD]
kiki045 folds
richiefromlv calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
richiefromlv checks
ClubArrow77 bets [$0.20 USD]
richiefromlv calls [$0.20 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
richiefromlv bets [$0.32 USD]

What could this person be playing? I dont have many reads on the player. He called my raise although looking at how people play at my level, people can still play with bad cards even with a raise of 2.5xBB.

I felt that I might be ahead on the flop since I had an inside straight draw and top pair top kicker. The turn card did not scare me but the river did since anyone with a K who just called went all the way and this is the first time villain bet into me. What is your read on the guy and what would you do in my situation?

Convert it please, im struggling with the positions and its hurting my eyes

If you were utg fold pre please. Also raise more, do not raise 2.5x at 2nl

Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $2
BB villain: $2.14
UTG: $2 (sitting out)
UTG+1 Hero: $2.08
MP: $1.97
MP+1: $0.91
MP+2: $1.83
CO: $0.95
BTN: $2.39

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 and dealt
Hero raises to $0.05, 3 folds, CO calls $0.05, 2 folds, villain calls $0.03

Flop: ($0.16) (4 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $0.08, CO folds, villain calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.32) (3 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $0.20, villain calls $0.20

River: ($0.72) (3 players)
villain bets $0.32

Sorry acky, here is a repost of the hand.

My line of reasoning
I've been playing really tight at the table so my raises seem to get respect so to make more money, I felt that I needed to open my range further (thus playing A5s due to flush potential).
On the flop, I got top pair with top kicker and since the other cards are low and rainbow, I felt I was ahead. The 10 gave some worry which is why I tried to take down the pot and the river bet seemed out of line (I would play the hand the same way if I flopped a straight) so I folded on the river.

bgomez, I was wondering how much the BB I should bet when going into a hand. I see most bet 3xBB and some bet 4xBB with some marginal hands and stay out if people bet 10xBB or more (which has happened with people playing KQ). I do find that despite playing tight and winning most sessions, I do not make much and often leave while up 15 to 50cents (since this is a $2, I think that is good profit but I do see some people on table with $3-$4 but I chalk them up as regulars and probably better than me right now). Do I need to increase my bet sizing if I want to make more money rather than become more loose?

Looks to me like he caught the king on the river and bullied you out, or maybe he had a pair of hold cards that caught the set....

My estimation... I've bet timid and got chased out because I could'nt pull the trigger and call as well thinking an opponent had me in freezeout tourneys, and with the way some play in smaller priced games will leave you guessing if you don't call and take the risk.

I did a Sit-nGo(10 plyrs) on BetOnline tonight and this fool went a;;-in 20 straight times!! He was winning consecutive hands with RAGS! I took my time with him and took him out with solid hole cards and let him do the work for me taking out the first 4 players then took his 7K in chips

People will take chances in the smaller priced games and you have to suss them out. Just my opinion so please don't be offended

post some reads. call.

I only had played 5 or so hands against villain prior to this hand so i did not have many reads on him at the time.

Here are stats I have on him now (I had less when I was playing him)
Hands 19
VP$IP 36.84
PFR 15.79
AF 2.33
WTSD 16.67


Eddie, im not offended at all and appreciate the criticism. Its hard to you said I bet timid but I was betting half pot which I thought was appropriate for a cbet. How much should I have bet? Should I have raised more pre?

Getting more than 3-1 you don't have to be good very often here. He could be floating on a gutter + overs with some AQ/AJ type hand or a 4x hand that bricked. I'm not one to call just for information but your pot odds + the fact that you are probably going to play a decent amount of pots with him in position makes me really want to call to see what he is doing.

agreed...

Last night I was simply trying to toss out probales, but in all reality you must call to see if he's bluffing or has the hand.

Don'y let him bully you, and good luck

Thanks for reposting it, makes it much easier to read.

Erm its been said that you dont have to be good very often here with the odds he's giving you but we are gonna be beat most of the time i think but the nice price makes it a call because he can be bluffing you and we do find out a bit about him from it.

One thing though is even if you're playing tight or whatever, you should just fold this hand pre-flop. Flushes are hard to come by and A5 is a trashy hand and even worse when you're in one of the worst positions. No-one is going to be thinking enough to respect you and when you do hit an Ace its not gonna be hard for people to out kicker you also. Stick to hands with really good potential from early position. Stuff like A5s, ATo, KQ, should just be folded imo.

ClubArrow77 said:

bgomez, I was wondering how much the BB I should bet when going into a hand. I see most bet 3xBB and some bet 4xBB with some marginal hands and stay out if people bet 10xBB or more (which has happened with people playing KQ). I do find that despite playing tight and winning most sessions, I do not make much and often leave while up 15 to 50cents (since this is a $2, I think that is good profit but I do see some people on table with $3-$4 but I chalk them up as regulars and probably better than me right now). Do I need to increase my bet sizing if I want to make more money rather than become more loose?

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1. There's no such thing as an "image" at 2nl

2. Raise more to get more value from your hand


People don't pay attention to how you play at 2nl(unless youre shoving every hand), so there's no point in thinking "people respect me so i'm going to raise any sooted hands" because they really don't respect or care about what you could have.

You need to raise more because you should be getting more value out of your hand. People love to play in position and they're usually willing to pay more money with more speculative hands when they're in a later position of the initial raiser. This is why you need to tighten up your range as you get closer and closer to UTG so that when you raise you get called by a TON of worse cards, whereas if you play hands like A5 or 87s in early position, not so much.

Fold Preflop. As played, flop is ok. I probably bet a bit more, not a huge deal though. I would check behind on the turn here usually against an unknown. I will then sometimes call the river against certain player types and certain bet sizes. Usually just folding though.

Is blackrain actually blackrain? >_>