$2 NLHE Full Ring: pushing back with TT set

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/10/2.2

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($2)
BB ($4.82)
UTG ($2.65)
UTG+1 ($2.03)
UTG+2 ($4.34)
Hero ($2.15)
BTN ($1.87)
Dealt to Hero T♣ T♠
fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.20, UTG+2 calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.10
FLOP ($0.61) T♥ Q♠ 2♣
BB bets $0.43, UTG+2 raises to $0.86, Hero raises to $1.95 (AI), BB folds, UTG+2 calls $1.09
TURN ($4.94) T♥ Q♠ 2♣ 7♥
RIVER ($4.94) T♥ Q♠ 2♣ 7♥ J♣

Good play, bad play? Comments?

looks fairly standard to me.

Any more detailed comments on (a) pushing back preflop with two callers (b) pushing back postflop given villain's stats? I'm new and need all the information I can get.

I think preflop is fine. you do not want to re-raise TT here as you dont want to build a huge pot pre-flop as if they just flat call overcards will come on the flop very often and it will make the hand difficult to play. If they shove over your reraise then you will have to fold unless you have a read that someone will shove very light. Post flop is ideal as you want to get all the money in on this flop as you will be ahead a lot of the time.

Unless someone wishes to correct me I think you played the hand well.

Nh

don't be result orientated

Tyler69 said:

don't be result orientated

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Good point, which is why I didn't post the result.

Why'd you 3-bet preflop?

c9h13no3 said:

Why'd you 3-bet preflop?

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To get initiative postflop. If I raise preflop then postflop I put villain under pressure. Let me know if my thinking is wrong.

noname65 said:

To get initiative postflop.

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This is a decent reason, but you need to make sure you're not value-cutting yourself at the same time. If your opponent raises 10% of his hands preflop (probably less here), then TT is barely ahead of that range.

As long as our opponent calls this 3-bet with most of his raising range, I'm fine with the 3-bet. But I'm not convinced he does that.

c9h13no3 said:

This is a decent reason, but you need to make sure you're not value-cutting yourself at the same time. If your opponent raises 10% of his hands preflop (probably less here), then TT is barely ahead of that range.

As long as our opponent calls this 3-bet with most of his raising range, I'm fine with the 3-bet. But I'm not convinced he does that.

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Please provide me with a link to basic information on calculating ranges based on VPIP/PFR/AF, if that's how it's done. Otherwise, please provide me with a link to basic information on calculating ranges. (I know about PokerStove but haven't figured out how to use it while playing.)

Hero didn't 3 bet preflop?

bgomez89 said:

Hero didn't 3 bet preflop?

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There's confusion over the term "3bet" here.

The other poster meant my raise to 10 cents following the limps. You probably mean a 3x reraise following a raise. I did the former but not the latter--I just called the reraise.

No I'm pretty sure c9 knows that a 3bet is a re raise so he mightve not read the hand right or i didn't

hero called a 3bet. he didn't 3bet

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Good point, which is why I didn't post the result.

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i said that because even if u ran into top of villains range (QQ) u didn't play it wrong. If villains 3bet was larger than im probably folding because im basically set mining there and u dont wanna set mine in 3bet pots

Looks like something I would have done. Preflop raise and calling re-raise was proper. Board on the flop is not very dangerous, so I'd be pretty certain I was ahead at that point (only would be concerned about QQ). Regardless, a set on the flop is obviously very strong.

bgomez89 said:

Hero didn't 3 bet preflop?

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God dammit, red actions are supposed to be raises!

/me is the worst at reading hand histories ever.

red is just the colour of the people that got to showdown I think. Or maybe the ones that were still there on the last street of action

Tyler69 said:

hero called a 3bet. he didn't 3bet

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i said that because even if u ran into top of villains range (QQ) u didn't play it wrong. If villains 3bet was larger than im probably folding because im basically set mining there and u dont wanna set mine in 3bet pots

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For curiosity value, villain had 33.

yay

this looks fine to me...just hope this guy didn't have QQ...that can be so classic at online tables :/

sryImPro said:

this looks fine to me...just hope this guy didn't have QQ...that can be so classic at online tables :/

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online is rigged

Tyler69 said:

online is rigged

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It absolutely is, but not in the way most losing players think. It's rigged so that bad players win maybe 1-1.5% MORE often than random chance would allow, because that gives them hope and keeps them redepositing. As a currently losing player who's getting better, I know all about THAT.

I'm having trouble finding the sarcasm in that last post. You serious?

No Brainer said:

I'm having trouble finding the sarcasm in that last post. You serious?

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Absolutely.

There is no need to insist on the sunshiny goodness and angelic purity of billion-dollar businesses like online poker rooms. For the most part they don't screw the players who know what they're doing, but human nature is such that businesspeople who CAN commit wrongs, WILL commit wrongs.