$2 NLHE Full Ring: Problems with playing AA Post-Flop

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Dont really know what to do here.

After raising preflop the turn comes and MP2 donkbets. I'm thinking he could have A2s since 67 would not call preflop, or some straigt draw. Since I'm putting him on a draw I 3-bet and he calls. On the turn i bet again and he reraises, now I'm pretty sure he hit some straight, but I'm still not sure if I'm right. The only Hand that comes to my mind here he could have is 66.

Could he have something like 66 or was folding not good here?


Pacific $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $1.51 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, hands: 42
Hero (BTN): $2.51 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 2,4, Hands: 6805
SB: $1.27 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 28
BB: $2.01 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 13,0, Hands: 160
UTG: $2.18 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 11, 3B: 7, AF: 0,6, Hands: 44
UTG+1: $2.02 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 1,7, Hands: 64
UTG+2: $1.95 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 54
MP1: $2.71 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 9, 3B: 8, AF: 3,1, Hands: 227
MP2: $5.87 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 42

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A:spade: A:heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.27) 5:diamond: 4:spade: 3:spade: (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets $0.09, Hero raises to $0.31, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.89) 7:diamond: (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP2 raises to $0.88, Hero folds
 
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1) Raise way more preflop (~$0.14), because they will still call.
2) Raise way more on the flop, because they will still call.
3) The turn is not good for you because it completes like all the draws. Check back, induce a bluff, call a reasonably sized bet.
 
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Raise at least .1 pre. You have 2 limpers so you need to add 1bb per each limper. If you not sure about the sizing just click pot button.

Flop you can raise bigger but ok. I would never fold turn there, his min raise just smells like FOS...
 
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but why not fold? which hand would check-raise that I beat?
 
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Its not what you beat is who you are up against, do you think that guy who c/r minimum knows what he is doing and doing it for value, this guy is a fish who can easily in the middle of the hand thought about go agro and bluff you. If you wanna play safe then fold, OK but i can bet my ass that he dont have 6 there
 
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I agree with Draze, you have 2 limpers so $0.08 is no good, you should be betting 0.10 at least.

Flop could be a little bit higher, yep the turn doesn't look good for AA. I believe his c/r was for value there, if he was still drawing I believe he would just call as his stats show him to be very passive. As c9 said a check back would of been better. UL
 
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Sarah, no one ever check/minraise for value, this is a fish who might do this with random 7, with 2 clubs, with 2 spades, dont you think that he would shippit at flop with overpair + OESD??? fishes love to donk call flushdraws, lot less often str8 draws...

At OP, please if you are planing to fold to a min raise, dont bet this boards...
 
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This passive player could be min-rasing because for one he is not a thinking player, and doesn't know about sizing his bets
 
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Here Draza this is a hand that I put up for HA:

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 42/2/62

PokerStars - $2+$0.20|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 15,221 (VPIP: 49.18, PFR: 1.64, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 62)
UTG+1: 5,131 (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 10.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
Hero (MP): 12,917
MP+1: 1,260 (VPIP: 7.35, PFR: 1.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 68)
MP+2: 7,390 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
CO: 1,311 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
BTN: 1,460 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
SB: 14,234 (VPIP: 32.84, PFR: 21.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
BB: 11,592 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 13.24, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 68)

9 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,050) Hero has A A

UTG calls 400, fold, Hero raises to 1,200, fold, fold, CO calls 1,200, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 800

Flop: (4,650, 3 players) 3 7 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 2,325, CO calls 61 and is all-in, UTG calls 2,325

Turn: (9,361, 3 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero bets 4,680, UTG raises to 9,360, Hero?

River: (28,045, 3 players) 9
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Very passive player min-raised me, I called thinking my aces were still good but he had a set. Passive players don't study how they should bet for value they just press that raise to button... Could be cos their lazy or have no clue what they are doing.
 
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Well i dont play tourneys beside CC games so i might be wrong here but shoudl you bet bigger pre and way bigger on flop? if you had done that, your sizing on turn would be allin bet and won or lose a hand that should be a way to play it IMHO now i again say i dont play tornaments but with the hand at OP fish rarely rarely min raise with strong hand, if he is planing to x/r he would go bigger probably allin, or at least pot, snap pot bet or snap allin after you bet. min raise is almost never strong holding in OP hand...
 
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Well i dont play tourneys beside CC games so i might be wrong here but shoudl you bet bigger pre and way bigger on flop?
It's pretty common to raise smaller pre & bet the flop smaller in tournaments, since your stack is typically less than 100 big blinds. You don't need a huge raise to deny implied odds or get fold equity.
 
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Considering opponent's vpip (33) It's possible that opponent has A6 K6 Q6s A2s, 68s(If he is really fish) and 66. So. I think I would fold AA on this spot.
 
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I believe the bad players at 2nl will still play the same poker that they would as in a tournament. They probably haven't got the "get it in good" in their thought process as they haven't adapted and don't ever study. A lot of bad 2nl players don't normally raise if their hand is just a pair, or on a draw, they will just call it down.

Not that I have played a lot of cash games, as you know I am more tournament, but this is what I have been told, if a bad player just calls he/she has hit a bit of the board, if they raise, even a min-raise they have 2P, sets or better, and was told they never bluff so don't play fancy poker :)
 
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