$2 NLHE Full Ring: Preflop reraise from a nit hile I hold AKs

LD1977

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Hero (UTG): $2.00
UTG+1: $1.04
MP1: $1.72

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.30, 5 folds

Villain is 17 / 17 / 2 (18 hands), but the numbers were even lower when the hand was played (something like 7 / 7 from 10 hands)

1. What do I do here? Call, reraise, go All In? I am not inclined to fold AKs here, don't have nearly enough hands on him to be sure he does this with KK/AA only.

Edit: Jamming surely has fold equity if he does this with JJ+.
 
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OK, here is what I have so far.

I have here:
1. 46% equity vs. JJ and QQ
2. 50% against AKs, 52.5% vs. AKo (according to Poker Stove)
3. 30% vs. KK
4. 10% vs. AA

I have some fold equity vs. anything below KK. This is very important and key for the decision but I am unsure what the number might be.

So, how do I calculate the precise number here which is relevant for decision to go All In or not? Or going All In is stupid with so little info?
 
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The Chart:

3-bet percentage you need to be facing in order to 4-bet/call off
* KK+: Good against any range
* QQ: vs 3% or higher (3% is AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* JJ: vs 6.5% or higher
* TT: vs 8.5% or higher
* 99: vs 10.5% or higher
* 88: vs 12.5% or higher
* 77: vs 14% or higher
* AKs: vs 3% or higher (AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* AQs: vs 8% or higher
* AJs: vs 13% or higher
* AKo: vs 5% or higher (AK, JJ+, plus 22% bluffs)
* AQo: vs 9% or higher

I'm not sure if a nit at 2NL 3-bets 3% (do nits at 2NL 3-bet JJ? Idk), but you can't go too far wrong with 4-betting and calling it off with AKs. It's as close to near nuts as you can get without holding KK+.
 
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Nice :) where did this chart come from?

Nits generally don't give up JJ and do 3-bet it.
 
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Save this chart it will help no end making decisions oop.
 
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This is a call imo, sure someone posted a hand like this not long ago. 4bet getting it in at 2nl is probably not the best, unlikely to be terrible though
 
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17 hands is no where near enough of a sample size to determine whether or not he's a nit.

Sure it indicates he's no spewtard; however essentially you're still playing readless.

Also factor in the fact he's not even 100 blinds deep and is only 70blinds deep, this is an easy ship. Just jam and be done with it.
 
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I did jam it, he called with QQ and I lost the hand.

I wasn't too disappointed since in situations close to that one I get quite a few folds, but then I started thinking about situations where I knew more about him and the correct choice.

So the chart was exactly what I was looking for.

I plugged into Poker Stove AKs vs. JJ+ and AQo+ and equity is over 50%, but if the range doesn't include AQo but only AKo then I am behind, not counting fold equity.
 
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not sure its such an easy ship myself but gonna grind instead of arguing on the internet :)
 
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Business before pleasure :D what limits are you grinding?
 
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The Chart:

3-bet percentage you need to be facing in order to 4-bet/call off
* KK+: Good against any range
* QQ: vs 3% or higher (3% is AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* JJ: vs 6.5% or higher
* TT: vs 8.5% or higher
* 99: vs 10.5% or higher
* 88: vs 12.5% or higher
* 77: vs 14% or higher
* AKs: vs 3% or higher (AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* AQs: vs 8% or higher
* AJs: vs 13% or higher
* AKo: vs 5% or higher (AK, JJ+, plus 22% bluffs)
* AQo: vs 9% or higher

I'm not sure if a nit at 2NL 3-bets 3% (do nits at 2NL 3-bet JJ? Idk), but you can't go too far wrong with 4-betting and calling it off with AKs. It's as close to near nuts as you can get without holding KK+.

Nice :) where did this chart come from?

Curious about the chart as well. Link to discussion thread where it originates?
 
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I think it's fairly close, hands on villain are almost useless after only 17
 
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Curious about the chart as well. Link to discussion thread where it originates?
It's from a Hold'em Manager strategy article. It wasn't posted on the internet, it was a promotional article that was only released with the trial version of the software. Called "Facing a preflop 3-bet". It's a chart of game theory optimal (break even) 4-bet/calling ranges. So your opponent will never profit if you're 4-betting according this chart. However, calling or folding may be a MORE profitable line than 4-betting in spots like this one. But the chart is a good place to start when considering preflop decisions.
 
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