$2 NLHE Full Ring: Playing pocket Jacks against a preflop reraiser

LD1977

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UTG: $2.21
UTG+1: $1.97
UTG+2: $0.80
Hero (MP1): $2.00
MP2: $3.10
CO: $1.00
BTN: $2.00
SB: $1.30
BB: $1.86

CO posts a big blind ($0.02)

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is MP1 with J :club: J :spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.18, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.52, Hero calls $0.34

Flop: ($1.09) 2 :diamond: 3 :spade: 2 :spade: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.46, Hero raises to $1.48 all in, UTG+1 calls $0.99 all in

Turn: ($3.99) 6 :heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($3.99) Q :heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)


Villain is 33 / 20 / 2 over 30 hands, and I don't have a reliable read on his play style.

1. Drop Jacks to preflop reraise?
2. On the flop - give up since nothing has changed?
 
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I'm a nit so I fold to the 4 bet
 
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flat pre, fold to 4bet, don't jam flop..

VPIP/PFR are useful but 4bet % is obv more helpful here.
 
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I flat this pre vs an ep raise. As played def fold to the 4bet.
 
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OK, got it, JJs are too vulnerable.
 
c9h13no3

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VPIP/PFR are useful but 4bet % is obv more helpful here.
Lol, cuz that converges after 30 (or even 300?) hands!

Against a 33/20, I think JJ is fine to 3-bet for value down here. JJ has good equity against the 15% or so he's opening, and in order for us to become even money he needs to fold down to 5%. I'm not sure I give a 33/20 credit for a 75ish% fold to 3-bet stat at the microstakes. Plus even if we are an equity dog, the initiative and simplicity of playing 3-bet pots makes up for it.

It's close, and I'm fine with flatting. But I don't think the 3-bet was all that bad. Calling the 4-bet is pretty rough obviously.
 
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I 3bet JJ quite happily here vs a fish. I fold pretty quickly to the 4bet though.

When we widen our value range vs fish to include AQ/JJ/TT sorta hands it's to bet/fold rather than bet/call unless we have a read they're shipping it in very light.
 
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Yeah, IIRC I lost this hand but can't recall exactly to what :D in any case this was stupidly played.
 
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