$2 NLHE Full Ring: Part 1 - 2nl ZOOM hands analysis -Small questions-Small answers :)

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$2 NLHE Full Ring: Part 1 - 2nl ZOOM hands analysis -Small questions-Small answers :)

Small questions-Small answers :):):)
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Reraise preflop maybe??how much ??? cbet the flop ???


HandNo1

pokerstars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($2.03)
Hero (SB) ($1.09)
BB ($1.46)
UTG ($1.76)
UTG+1 ($11.30)
MP1 ($2.59)
MP2 ($2.17)
MP3 ($2)
CO ($2.43)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J
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, J
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6 folds, Button raises to $0.05, Hero calls $0.04, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.12) Q
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, 6
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, 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.12) 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.04, 1 fold

Total pot: $0.12 | Rake: $0
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This massive check raising scared me . was my fold right ???

HandNo8
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($2.88)
SB ($2.37)
BB ($1.41)
UTG ($1.91)
UTG+1 ($2.59)
MP1 ($3.51)
MP2 ($2)
MP3 ($2.02)
CO ($0.71)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K
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, K
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6 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 3
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, J
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, 8
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB raises to $0.31, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.25 | Rake: $0.01

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You would have called to see this small PP ??



HandNo10
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($3.33)
SB ($2.15)
BB ($2.29)
UTG ($1.92)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($1.97)
MP2 ($2.39)
Hero (MP3) ($2.66)
CO ($2.02)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4
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, 4
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3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, 4 folds, BB calls $0.06

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OOP he bets, cbets , on micro zoom limits it' s kinda bingo ,you would call,raise??

HandNo12
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($2.56)
SB ($2.42)
BB ($9.79)
UTG ($2.05)
UTG+1 ($2.03)
MP1 ($2.15)
MP2 ($2)
MP3 ($3.30)
CO ($0.41)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J
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, J
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UTG raises to $0.06, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) Q
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, 4
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, 2
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.07, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.15 | Rake: $0.01
 
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JJ: typically I like to 3bet OOP ... why? because we don't get paid off as much if we hit our set or if villain misses post flop. So make our value early :)

KK: It's hard to suggest if it was a smart fold... His raise was big enough that it appears to be a good fold.

Are you new to poker? Don't be afraid to attack your opponents especially while your strong.
 
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Small questions-Small answers :):):)
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Reraise preflop maybe??how much ??? cbet the flop ???


HandNo1

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($2.03)
Hero (SB) ($1.09)
BB ($1.46)
UTG ($1.76)
UTG+1 ($11.30)
MP1 ($2.59)
MP2 ($2.17)
MP3 ($2)
CO ($2.43)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J
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, J
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6 folds, Button raises to $0.05, Hero calls $0.04, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.12) Q
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, 6
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, 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.12) 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.04, 1 fold

Total pot: $0.12 | Rake: $0

Yes, we should 3b here pre. It's a BTN raise. His range is wide, and we are raising for value. 3b $0.15-$0.20
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This massive check raising scared me . was my fold right ???

HandNo8
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($2.88)
SB ($2.37)
BB ($1.41)
UTG ($1.91)
UTG+1 ($2.59)
MP1 ($3.51)
MP2 ($2)
MP3 ($2.02)
CO ($0.71)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K
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, K
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6 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 3
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, J
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, 8
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB raises to $0.31, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.25 | Rake: $0.01

I would call this flop raise, and see what he does on the turn. Hopefully we drill the old king ball on the turn? Yeah? :)

But I'm not folding this flop. Wanna see turn, and what kind of bet he makes.

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You would have called to see this small PP ??



HandNo10
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($3.33)
SB ($2.15)
BB ($2.29)
UTG ($1.92)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($1.97)
MP2 ($2.39)
Hero (MP3) ($2.66)
CO ($2.02)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4
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, 4
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3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, 4 folds, BB calls $0.06

Absolutely calling here. If you have implied odds of 10x+ (preferably 15x+), you can setmine here, and you have position on the raiser as well. The idea is to smash a set, and get V to stack off. 3 streets of value. We pretty much shut down without flopping a set or some equity.

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OOP he bets, cbets , on micro zoom limits it' s kinda bingo ,you would call,raise??

HandNo12
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($2.56)
SB ($2.42)
BB ($9.79)
UTG ($2.05)
UTG+1 ($2.03)
MP1 ($2.15)
MP2 ($2)
MP3 ($3.30)
CO ($0.41)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J
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, J
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UTG raises to $0.06, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) Q
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, 4
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, 2
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.07, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.15 | Rake: $0.01

This last one is another example of a 3b spot. However, this can be a double edged sword.... some factors should be considered before 3b this UTG raiser.

If this player is a nit, and has an extremely narrow range UTG, we should only call. However, those types of players are somewhat rare.

So we are 3b here if V is not a super nit. We have the BTN. We are 3b for value, we gain control of the hand, and we can still cbet A high or K high boards if V calls 3b and checks the flop. We have taken initiative and control of action pre.

However, if V 4b us, it is gross. Cause then, he really only might have A-K or better PP mostly, but this is also villain dependant. History and what you've seen the guy/girl do before should/will impact your decision on whether to proceed if V 4b us. But we don't want UTG to 4b us, and it would be tough to continue in my opinion.

But getting 4b will be rare at these stakes, unless they are nutted.

So anyways, if we 3b, dude calls. He checks flop, we can bet (I'm talking about this flop in the example you gave), and we probably should for protection/value. But we could also check back, and give him a chance to bet worse on the turn... however, there are 8 aces and kings, and we probably don't want one rolling off. Villains do peel with any pair and PP at these stakes I think, so I just like 3b, and betting about half pot on this flop (if V flats our 3b pre).

We don't need to bet very big because the board is dry, and it's gonna be pretty tough for him to connect. We want to try and make the bet a size he will make calls with worse hands like 2x, 4x, or PP 5-5~10-10. If he calls flop, we pot control turn and check back maybe...probably. We can also get V to bet worse on River with worseif we're checking back on turn as well.
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See comments in the quote above:)
 
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3b the JJ in the first hand.

KK im probably just gonna jam there. nl2 players would stack off with way worse.

44 is a good fold, people over value small pocket pairs and you still have so many people behind still to act. Id call 66+ here.

JJ im 3b again. if i just call pre im calling flop and seeing the turn. there is only one over card to our pair and if he checks turn we almost certainly have the best hand.
 
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JJ: typically I like to 3bet OOP ... why? because we don't get paid off as much if we hit our set or if villain misses post flop. So make our value early :)

KK: It's hard to suggest if it was a smart fold... His raise was big enough that it appears to be a good fold.

Are you new to poker? Don't be afraid to attack your opponents especially while your strong.

- Yeah, this ''value'' 3bet OOP I'm gonna try it , to see how it goes .

-I might be new to poker ;) , don't know , I mean I have been playing for some years , but I play and I lose money like a new player :) .

I have been playing very bad and as a recreational player , now I'm trying to change it , I have a bankroll , try to expand it , and I try to learn to play better , at tournaments I have been improved a little , on cash games I still play like a nit .

Plus I have my tilt moments when I play cash games . That's why I rarily play now , I try to evolve/get improved before I start playing more cash games , cause I make stupid decisions/mistakes , then I get irritated/annoyed/tilted because of them ( I want the money back, I play loose or throw away/'burn' my money:( ) and byebye money , all the effort/session of 3 hours is lost .

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PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($1.72)
SB ($1.82)
BB ($2)
UTG ($3.72)
UTG+1 ($1.64)
MP1 ($2.15)
MP2 ($3.82)
MP3 ($2.11)
CO ($2.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9
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, 9
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UTG calls $0.02, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.15) J
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, 3
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, 4
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.33) K
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.21, Hero calls $0.21

River: ($0.75) J
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.47, Hero calls $0.47

Total pot: $1.69 | Rake: $0.06

Results below:
Hero didn't show 9
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, 9
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(flush, King high).
UTG had A
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, Q
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(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG won $1.63



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PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($3.28)
SB ($6.04)
BB ($0.82)
UTG ($1.06)
UTG+1 ($3.54)
MP1 ($2.16)
Hero (MP2) ($0.84)
MP3 ($2.38)
CO ($4.17)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K
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, Q
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2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, 5 folds, MP1 raises to $2.16 (All-In), Hero calls $0.66 (All-In)

Flop: ($1.71) A
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, 3
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, 6
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($1.71) 5
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1.71) 8
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $1.71 | Rake: $0.06

Results below:
MP1 had K
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
Hero had K
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, Q
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(high card, Ace).
Outcome: MP1 won $1.65
 
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See comments in the quote above:)

a)yeah , 3bet with the JJ , I wonder what if 99,1010 and 77,88 .

b)If it was pot bet ok , but 1/4 of his stack with check raise on the flop ?? I think I will play it the same , if I had more stack sure I would call

c) I usually call 3xbb for PP 99+ , 2xbb for lower PP, or more if many have called . In position ofcourse it's better. Don't you think it's kinda risky from MP3 , four more to call ?? But I take your analysis into consideration , in the future I'll give it a try

d) Yeah , I'll try it too, I have position so... But the problem with the micros is that many are just playing bingo , so when on 2nl I see a raise most of the cases he has hit sth on the flop , and when I see raise utg is very alarming for me for AA or KK , phobia I guess :)
 
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3b the JJ in the first hand.

KK im probably just gonna jam there. nl2 players would stack off with way worse.

44 is a good fold, people over value small pocket pairs and you still have so many people behind still to act. Id call 66+ here.

JJ im 3b again. if i just call pre im calling flop and seeing the turn. there is only one over card to our pair and if he checks turn we almost certainly have the best hand.

1/4 of his stack preflop is in the pot already , he wants to make me go all in , I don't think the jack is sth he bets on , if I had more stack I might do that . He saw the flop very chep and now he wants all in ??? mmmmm..... Don't say that . nl2 players are not like they used to be , they are more carefull like they used to be unfortunatelly :(

Yes , my opinion on that is you are right , if you don't have the pot odds , why risk it, but here and there you might try it if it's cheap or if you have the stack , I think we can agree on that :) . I decided to give it a try :)

For the JJ , I said that before, yes 3bet I guess , I have position , I want to see his range and how much he wants to play his cards post flop,etc
 
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99: fold turn. notice if u raise flop perhaps u wouldve won. Keep an eye on dryboards etc when headsup and make notes on ppl who lead or cbet when missed... this is very important.

kq: never gii pre ... bad players often have at least low pp or Ax.... we have a hand that plays best post flop... dont remove its strength. If you lose the edge u need to fold
 
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