$2 NLHE Full Ring: KK on a 3-way flop, spewtard donks into me, nit behind

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CO: $1.64
BTN: $2.61
SB: $2.15
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.92
UTG+1: $2.60
Hero (MP1): $2.00
MP2: $4.19

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with K :diamond: K :club:
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, MP2 calls $0.12, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.39) T :heart: 7 :spade: 9 :diamond: (3 players)
UTG bets $0.39, Hero raises to $1.56, MP2 calls $1.56, UTG calls $1.17

Turn: ($5.07) 5 :spade: (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.32 all in, MP2 raises to $0.64, UTG calls $0.24 all in

River: ($5.95) Q :club: (3 players - 2 are all in)

UTG is a complete moron, 79 / 0 / 1.4 over 29 hands. He coolered me once already on random crap with <10% chance so he thinks he is invincible or something. Anyway, I knew he is doing this with air.

MP2 is a 9 / 7 / 4.5 over 68 hands, looks like vanilla nit. He will fold to my raise unless he has something great here (probably a set if he cold calls preflop and doesn't fold here). Not exactly world class either, look at his nonsensical turn raise.

*** BTW this is a part of ongoing session where in 200+ hands I got coolered with AA, KK, QQ and JJ (not to mention minor stuff like 65% equity on the flop etc.) and I also lost this hand probably due to poor play but I am uncertain about correct play here. Incredible, so many high PPs and I am getting raped mercilessly - over 210 hands I had 2*AA, 4*AK/AKs, 2*KK, 2*QQ, 1*JJ and I am losing -150 bb/100). All hands have +EV diff or are at zero (meaning, every time I pushed I got coolered or was already at zero EV). I am probably going to post many of these tomorrow to try and make some sense out of it with forum help.

So, I need to know:
1. What is correct action on the flop? I know sizing of my bet is LOL (should have just pushed and be done with it) but I was in the process of losing AA and QQ simultaneously on two other tables so I was a bit distracted :D :D :D
- It sucks not to know what nit will do, maybe best is just to call? But then if he is drawing he will maybe call too... so I decided to raise. The fish will call for sure.

P.S. It is not relevant for the correct play, but fish had air and nit had a set. This is not much of a spoiler so just in case someone is curious.
 
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Yoshimiii

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Get it in and hope the nit has J/J, Q/Q (clearly screwed by the river if so), you have to raise that flop against the UTG maniac and when the nit behind you calls you have no choice but to go with the hand, this is why position is always helpful :). Well played.
 
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Sucks but there's nothing you can do in these spots. The way the hand played out with the fish potting the type of flop you absolutely have to raise 3-ways and running into a nit with a set is sooo lame, but that's poker.
 
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Thanks guys.

The whole problem is that the nit has position on me so I have to make a bet that prevents him from calling a draw.

This is unlikely if he knows as well as I do that the fish here:
1. has nothing
2. will call

If he does know it then there is little chance to shake him off if he has anything to look forward to.

I am probably strategically screwed here since I have little flexibility and also have pot odds since a 3rd of the pot is dead money.
 
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you played it brilliantly on flop, excellent raise. shove turn/river
 
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Thanks.

Considering stack size I should have just shoved here, everybody is going in anyway and that small amount left is going in for sure one way or the other. It wouldn't change anything except I would need to click few less buttons :D

The only difference is something I read, that inattentive people much prefer to have 2 choices (if I am All In then it is call/fold) than 3 (call/raise/fold). I am still considering the implications of that (if there are any).
 
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Thanks.

Considering stack size I should have just shoved here, everybody is going in anyway and that small amount left is going in for sure one way or the other. It wouldn't change anything except I would need to click few less buttons :D

The only difference is something I read, that inattentive people much prefer to have 2 choices (if I am All In then it is call/fold) than 3 (call/raise/fold). I am still considering the implications of that (if there are any).

I think that shoudn't be on your mind when playing poker at these stakes haha, just work on your game as much as possible and it will help more than thinking about that.
 
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yeah ABC poker for our level. fish will spew, so help them
 
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