$2 NLHE Full Ring: KJs postflop misplay

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 33/17/1

SB: $1.30
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.14
UTG+1: $2.00
UTG+2: $2.27
MP1: $2.17
Hero (MP2): $2.12
CO: $1.96
BTN: $1.32

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with J <font color='black'>♠</font> K <font color='black'>♠</font>
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) 8 <font color='black'>♣</font> 7 <font color='black'>♣</font> K <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.09, BTN raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.51) 6 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.38, Hero folds

Like in the other hand that I posted. Again a flop raise. What does that mean in this situation? I know the player is quite loose. I expect him to have flush draws or maybe a flush. Looking back on it he has quite a lot of combinations that beat me. For me it's tough to make that trade off on the spot.
 
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Fold pre. The reason this hand occurred and put you in a sticky situation, is that you're playing too loose pre. Position is one of the most important things in poker, if you were on the button and he was mp, the decisions would all be a lot easier.

On the flop, even though it's a min raise, I don't feel like your hand is strong enough to call a 3bet OOP.

Remove KJs from your range altogether, or at least only open raise on the CO/BTN (if there was a raise before you, fold). It's a hand that'll cause you trouble whilst learning fundamentals.
 
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JReece has a good point. You know the nickname for KJ is the Rookie Hand?
That's because it looks so good to rookies and it gets them in so much trouble. Okay from an opened pot on the BTN, but out of position can be a bugger.
 
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@ JReece: don't be too nitty. We're in the hijack and KJs is a good hand to play in that spot. I'll open it one position sooner even.


OP: either you decide it's not worth it against a possible flush (or even set because he's got a lot of pocket pairs in his cold-calling range as well as suited connectors), and fold the flop, or you continue.
Nothing changed on this turn, so if you call the flop, you should be calling here as well. You can re-evaluate when a 4th club falls.

I prefer to fold on the flop without a read. Is the '1' in his stats his AF? Over how many hands? That's not overly aggressive if it's AF over a larger sample. Favours the fold as well.
 
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Thanks for the comments guys. I think there is a conceptual problem with my hand planning. What TimovieMan is saying makes a lot of sense. Should have folded with this type of aggression it's not worth continuing in such a marginal spot. OR called turn as well.

Next session I'll try to focus more on having a clear plan for a hand before I click buttons ;).



Btw,

Yeh I had about 85 hands with Villain so even though it's a marginal sample it shows at least that villain is not aggresive
 
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@ JReece: don't be too nitty. We're in the hijack and KJs is a good hand to play in that spot. I'll open it one position sooner even.

I occasionally play it from the MP too, probably less than you, but surely a losing player, as OP describes himself, it's best to nit up a bit to make your post flop decisions easier? Expanding your range once you're in the green. Maybe site dependent, but if you're on a site where 2nl players are that good, you need to move site imo.
 
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