$2 NLHE Full Ring: KJs on KK8T board facing turn aggression

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $6.90 (VPIP: 26.13, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, hands: 312)
BTN: $6.82 (VPIP: 24.66, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 74)
SB: $2.29 (VPIP: 45.32, PFR: 20.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 141)

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♦ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.25, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 8♥ K♣ K♠
Hero bets $0.68, CO calls $0.68

Turn: ($2.06, 2 players) T♠
Hero bets $1.99, CO raises to $3.98, Hero???

Firstly, is my preflop play okay? I thought that the villain would be opening with a fairly wide range from the CO, and that a 3-bet would hoover up the dead money most of the time. I was planning to fold to a 4-bet. Villain's fold to 3-bet stat is 67%, and his fold to C-bet is also 67%.

Secondly, what to do on the turn? He has an aggression factor of 1.74 so I don't think he's bluffing that often. The only hand I can put him on that I beat is a worse king (which only leaves K9, K2-K7 -- none of which I think he calls with preflop), or AA (which I think he would have 4-bet). Maybe he picked up a flush/straight draw on the turn, but I don't think he calls the flop bet with those hands.

All advice welcome.

Thanks.

We have a blocker... im all up for the 3bet and getting it in asap... but ofc villain will have us crushed a small chunk...

Perhapa villain has ak?? Ppl flat to 3bets more nowadays.

Or he has 10s...

I don't think there is any way you can fold. There are a few different reasons for this. First, you actually have a pretty good hand. Personally I still think he could be holding AA/QQ/JJ which puts you way ahead. Second, if he does have a straight you still have quite a few outs to improve to a full house. The third (and biggest) reason is the pot odds you are getting. Once he moves in on the turn, you are getting about 4 to 1 pot odds.

If he has you beat here.....so be it, it happens to everyone.

Aces2w1n said:

We have a blocker... im all up for the 3bet and getting it in asap... but ofc villain will have us crushed a small chunk...

Perhapa villain has ak?? Ppl flat to 3bets more nowadays.

Or he has 10s...

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Yeah, when he raised the turn I was putting him on a better king or a full house. I shoved anyway, hoping he had aces.

JKo2theQQ said:

I don't think there is any way you can fold. There are a few different reasons for this. First, you actually have a pretty good hand. Personally I still think he could be holding AA/QQ/JJ which puts you way ahead. Second, if he does have a straight you still have quite a few outs to improve to a full house. The third (and biggest) reason is the pot odds you are getting. Once he moves in on the turn, you are getting about 4 to 1 pot odds.

If he has you beat here.....so be it, it happens to everyone.

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I wasn't even considering JJ-QQ at the time. I probably thought he would fold them on the flop. It makes sense that he could play them this way though, as the board is hard to hit and he might think his hand is good. I agree with the rest of your points too. I only need to be good here one time in five for the call to be break even, right? I'd say I've probably got the better hand slightly more often than that.

Thanks for the replies.

Yea, I think you are going to win here more than 20% of the time. I think it may even be as much as 35 to 45% of the time. Like you said, this is a pretty dry flop and he knows that there are only 2 kings unaccounted for. Also, since you 3bet preflop, he probably thinks you would cbet such a dry flop no matter what your cards are. Therefore, I could really see him continuing on the flop with some of the weaker holdings in his range.
Good Luck

Why are we 3-betting here? Cuz we just click buttons?

c9h13no3 said:

Why are we 3-betting here? Cuz we just click buttons?

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I think villain is opening from the CO with a wide range, most of which my hand is ahead of. BTN & SB haven't shown much strength by calling. I have a decent hand that doesn't play well OOP. I thought this was a good spot to 3-bet and either take it down preflop, or gain the initiative and win with a cbet on the flop.

Can you tell me why my thought process is wrong?

Thanks.

14% PFR though, that seems low to me to 3bet that

Metsdude396 said:

14% PFR though, that seems low to me to 3bet that

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You could be right. Although, I checked in pokertracker and he's stealing from the CO at 25%, and 56% from the BTN. So he's definitely opening lighter from LP.

I prefer just call pf... Btw, i think u overplay your hand on psf. I really don't believe that villain had JJ, QQ or a worst Kx. He fold a lot to 3-b, so i don't think he could had a JQss. He could have AA, but probably just call turn because raise doesn't make sense and he isn't so agrro.

I don't know how much $ u have behind and probably u cannot fold anymore, but, it's just because u put yourself in this situation and i think u could have avoid it.

I'm Brazilian, my English is not so good. Sorry about the mystakes...

Ortega said:

I prefer just call pf... Btw, i think u overplay your hand on psf. I really don't believe that villain had JJ, QQ or a worst Kx. He fold a lot to 3-b, so i don't think he could had a JQss. He could have AA, but probably just call turn because raise doesn't make sense and he isn't so agrro.

I don't know how much $ u have behind and probably u cannot fold anymore, but, it's just because u put yourself in this situation and i think u could have avoid it.

I'm Brazilian, my English is not so good. Sorry about the mystakes...

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Most of the time I'd prefer a fold over a call. If I call then I have to hit the flop hard to win. You could have a point in this circumstance though, especially when the SB with a 45 VPIP enters the pot. It's probably better to encourage him to stay in the hand as I'm going to have position on him if I do flop something. You might be right about the postflop stuff too. I'm still confused by this hand

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

Pre flop i just call with this hand, dont like the 3bet...
on the turn i call and see the river