$2 NLHE Full Ring: Input on AA hand I lost

Cherubael

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Table 'Kopff' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: gheorghiuVld ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: Boss_Bolshoi ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 3: s3ra ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 5: spIeeNy ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 6: korol999 ($0.77 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO($1.25 in chips)
Seat 8: cashgame4 ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: Warrrrior ($2 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $0.01
cashgame4: posts big blind $0.02
ChungaCh: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[As Ac]
Warrrrior: folds
gheorghiuVld: folds
Boss_Bolshoi: raises $0.04 to $0.06
s3ra: folds
spIeeNy: calls $0.06
korol999: folds
HERO: raises $0.06 to $0.12
cashgame4: folds
Boss_Bolshoi: folds
spIeeNy: calls $0.06
*** FLOP *** [3d 7h Td]
HERO: checks
spIeeNy: bets $0.16
HERO: calls $0.16
*** TURN *** [3d 7h Td] [Tc]
HERO: bets $0.30
spIeeNy: calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [3d 7h Td Tc] [9d]
HERO: bets $0.67 and is all-in
spIeeNy: calls $0.67
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
spIeeNy: shows [Th Ah] (three of a kind, Tens)
spIeeNy collected $2.49 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.58 | Rake $0.09
Board [3d 7h Td Tc 9d]
Seat 5: spIeeNy showed [Th Ah] and won ($2.49) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 6: korol999 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: HERO(small blind) showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
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Ok, so I've only recently started reviewing my own hands properly and here is a play that I have some ideas on how I did things wrong, but would like to see what other people think too.

Here I think my PF raise was too small, I possibly should have raised to ~0.18 and been happy to take the pot down there, but my aim was to get him to call and build a pot, not to have him fold.

The Flop came down 3/7/10 with a potential flush draw for diamonds but I felt good so I checked in the hope that as the initial aggressor he'd bet into me, which he did.

Now here, I got greedy and just called, hoping he'd keep betting into me on future streets, but I think I absolutely should have re-raised here.
If he'd called, I'd probably have put him on pocket tens/queens/kings and have tried to check the hand down/fold especially when the next ten came.

Instead I didn't really have much information on what he had (could still realistically be a pair/set/over pair/flush draw or just a bluff to try and take the pot) and I was aces-blind and assuming I was going to win the pot.

Edit: missed the turn out...
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The turn came a ten and I think I got a little scared but didn't think he actually had one, so tried to take the aggression initiative and win the pot there. When he called alarms bells should have been going off but I don't really know what I was thinking.
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The river was a shambles, by this point I was pot committed and any flush draw got there so I just fired, not entirely sure why I think in the hope I was still good and figuring if I wasn't and he wasn't on a flush I might scare him off.

That's my analysis of what both what I was thinking and what I think I should have done, any input is appreciated, thanks! :smile:
 
TimovieMan

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Why are you playing shortstacked? Buy-in full and auto-top-up. You'll win more.
Raise more preflop. 0.18$-0.24$ would be better than your near-min-raise.
Bet the flop! You 3-bet preflop!!! Why not continue while you have the initiative?
Turn and river are fine given your stack size, but since you played the flop passively, you may want to continue that. Just c/c the turn and shove the river instead.

Here I think my PF raise was too small, I possibly should have raised to ~0.18 and been happy to take the pot down there, but my aim was to get him to call and build a pot, not to have him fold.
This is NL2. Plenty of opponents will call anyway.

The Flop came down 3/7/10 with a potential flush draw for diamonds but I felt good so I checked in the hope that as the initial aggressor he'd bet into me which he did.
He was not the initial aggressor. That guy folded preflop. He coldcalled and then called your raise.
You have the initiative. Just c-bet 3/4 of the pot and look to shove the turn.

Now here, I got greedy and just called, hoping he'd keep betting into me on future Streets
Then why didn't you let him on future streets?

but I think I absolutely should have re-raised here.
3-betting preflop and then check/raising the flop looks really goofy. Don't try any fancy plays at these stakes. ABC poker is how you get the money.

If he'd called, I'd probably have put him on pocket tens/queens/kings and have tried to check the hand down/fold especially when the next ten came.
The next T reduces the chances that he has TT (there's only one combo out there), and if you check/raise the flop, you'll be pot committed anyway. Just get the rest of your chips in if you do that. Folding because you fear 1 combo of TT over 18 combos of JJ-KK is just silly. Especially if you'll have so little left in your stack and such a big pot to win.


Sorry to break it like this but: nicely butchered AA! :top:
 
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Why are you playing shortstacked? Buy-in full and auto-top-up. You'll win more.
Raise more preflop. 0.18$-0.24$ would be better than your near-min-raise.
Bet the flop! You 3-bet preflop!!! Why not continue while you have the initiative?
Turn and river are fine given your stack size, but since you played the flop passively, you may want to continue that. Just c/c the turn and shove the river instead.

This is NL2. Plenty of opponents will call anyway.

He was not the initial aggressor. That guy folded preflop. He coldcalled and then called your raise.
You have the initiative. Just c-bet 3/4 of the pot and look to shove the turn.

Then why didn't you let him on future streets?

3-betting preflop and then check/raising the flop looks really goofy. Don't try any fancy plays at these stakes. ABC poker is how you get the money.

The next T reduces the chances that he has TT (there's only one combo out there), and if you check/raise the flop, you'll be pot committed anyway. Just get the rest of your chips in if you do that. Folding because you fear 1 combo of TT over 18 combos of JJ-KK is just silly. Especially if you'll have so little left in your stack and such a big pot to win.


Sorry to break it like this but: nicely butchered AA! :top:

Yeah +1.

3b bigger preflop, bet flop, jam turn (with your stack).

Don't play short stacked.
 
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Why are you playing shortstacked? Buy-in full and auto-top-up. You'll win more.
Raise more preflop. 0.18$-0.24$ would be better than your near-min-raise.
Bet the flop! You 3-bet preflop!!! Why not continue while you have the initiative?
Turn and river are fine given your stack size, but since you played the flop passively, you may want to continue that. Just c/c the turn and shove the river instead.

This is NL2. Plenty of opponents will call anyway.

He was not the initial aggressor. That guy folded preflop. He coldcalled and then called your raise.
You have the initiative. Just c-bet 3/4 of the pot and look to shove the turn.

Then why didn't you let him on future streets?

3-betting preflop and then check/raising the flop looks really goofy. Don't try any fancy plays at these stakes. ABC poker is how you get the money.

The next T reduces the chances that he has TT (there's only one combo out there), and if you check/raise the flop, you'll be pot committed anyway. Just get the rest of your chips in if you do that. Folding because you fear 1 combo of TT over 18 combos of JJ-KK is just silly. Especially if you'll have so little left in your stack and such a big pot to win.


Sorry to break it like this but: nicely butchered AA! :top:

Sorry for the slow reply, hit my post limit for 24 hours...

Yeah I appreciate the hand was a shambles that's why I figured it was worth posting: smile:

I agree with what you're saying though to clarify one thing when I said the I'd put him on tens if he called a flop re-raise and then if a second ten came on the turn and he bet i'd consider folding, while it makes holding tens less likely it would still have brought other hands which hold a ten to attention, so I still think i'd have folded as e.g. A10/K10 now has trips.

However if I'd raised more preflop then these more marginal holdings are less likely...

Appreciate the tip about ABC poker at micro though, I think I overthink it sometimes and end up doing weird shit.
 
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