$2 NLHE Full Ring: Did I value town myself?

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Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $1.57
BB: $2
UTG: $2 (sitting out)
UTG+1: $2 (sitting out)
MP: $1.27
MP+1 Hero: $2
MP+2: $1.96
CO: $2.64
BTN: $2

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP+1 and dealt :9c4: :9d4:
MP calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.07, 3 folds, SB calls $0.06, MP folds

Flop: ($0.18) :as4: :2s4: :3d4: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.18) :as4: :2s4: :3d4: :9s4: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.18, SB calls $0.18

River: ($0.54) :as4: :2s4: :3d4: :9s4: :10h4: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.52, SB raises to $1.32 (All-in), Hero calls $0.80



Party Poker - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $2
BB: $2
UTG: $2 (sitting out)
UTG+1: $1.25
MP Hero: $0.43
MP+1: $1.96
MP+2: $2.64
CO: $2
BTN: $3.03

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP and dealt :kd4: :ac4:
UTG+1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.43 (All-in), 3 folds, BTN calls $0.43, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.41

Flop: ($1.32) :ad4: :5c4: :6d4: (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, BTN bets $0.63, UTG+1 raises to $0.82 (All-in), BTN calls $0.19

Turn: ($2.96) :ad4: :5c4: :6d4: :5s4: (4 players)

River: ($2.96) :ad4: :5c4: :6d4: :5s4: :7h4: (4 players)

Im posting these two hands because these hands are consecutive and I want to know if I used my image correctly or not for if I just made myself a bigger fish. Villain had VPIP of 25 and PRF of 0 according to my data but had been quite loose and limping into alot of pots. For the first hand, I admit that I got AA on another table and was distracted and looking back, should have folded to the river bet reraise.

The second hand, I dont open shove but since I just lost a big pot and got a premium hand, I thought people would be more likely to call thinking I was steaming which villain did. I can tell villains cards in a later post to confirm my suspicion that villain was a weak player but I am not sure if I could have played these two hands better (except folding to the call on the river).
 
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Here is my reasoning for the hands.
First hand, I raised to punish the SB limp and to narrow down the field. The flop was unfavorable with the Ace so I checked. The second card game me the set and bet pot for value. The river I felt I was a ahead but also got Aces on another table which I began to focus on. I think possibly a less than pot bet here would be good for value since I feel checking would miss value as people will call down with Ace kicker or two pair here.
 
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Both hands I raise 10c pre.

Other than that I don't really change anything.
Hand1 is close whether to call or not but I do. Villains could potentially do this with twopair/weaker sets, it's not that likely but were getting great odds.
 
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congratulations you lost out on 75bbs in H2
 
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^Yeah, why aren't you auto topping-off when you get short-stacked???
 
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true, hand 2 made me realize I should check the auto reload. However, I also lost hand 2 to the same villain. It sucked.
 
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Yep, and you would have lost more if you had auto topped-off. However its still the right thing to do. Hopefully, the majority of the time you're getting your whole stack in, you're ahead. You want to win as much as you can in these situations. You can't do that with a short-stack.
 
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In hand 1, c-bet this board.
 
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Here is my reasoning for the hands.
First hand, I raised to punish the SB limp and to narrow down the field. The flop was unfavorable with the Ace so I checked. The second card game me the set and bet pot for value. The river I felt I was a ahead but also got Aces on another table which I began to focus on. I think possibly a less than pot bet here would be good for value since I feel checking would miss value as people will call down with Ace kicker or two pair here.

Why is the flop unfavourable?

What do you accomplish by xing back?

What do you accomplish by betting?

I dont think the flop is unfavourable. You will have the best hand most often here.

I like xing back here but not because its unfavourable but because its a common situation called way ahead way behind. This just means that if we bet, mostly better hands call and worse hands fold. So in a way we are doing the opposite of what betting is supposed to do. Although there are some draws out there, the vast majority of his range that we beat will just fold and Ax, flush draws and maybe a couple other combos of hands will fold.

So i x back and when we hit the turn i like potting it too. Lets get some value when theres now a much more likely chance he will call with worse. He will have Ax, 1 card flush draws, possibly a 9x he wants to call, and some other random hands.

On the river i would bet huge again. Stereotypically a river raise is very strong but i think our hand beats out a lot of his value range. He could have a better set or flush but more often he will have Ax, 2pr etc.

So i think that hand 1 was well played.
 
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the reason I checked on the flop because I feel that at 2nl, a lot of players go into the pot with Axs or any Ace. I guess if I bet I would be called by flush draws or hands that have me beat which means I have a two outer to get a better hand. However, my hand still had equity being middle pair which is why I checked and planned to fold had I not gotten the set on the turn.
 
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the reason I checked on the flop because I feel that at 2nl, a lot of players go into the pot with Axs or any Ace. I guess if I bet I would be called by flush draws or hands that have me beat which means I have a two outer to get a better hand. However, my hand still had equity being middle pair which is why I checked and planned to fold had I not gotten the set on the turn.
Your hand actually doesn't have a lot of SD equity (a FD with overs is a favorite over your hand). If your pair was bigger (JJ/QQ/KK) checking back becomes a better option but for smaller pairs just cbetting the flop is best.
 
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