$2 NLHE Full Ring: I turn trip 9s on turn, villian shoves river. My move??

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Hero (BB): $2.61
UTG: $0.86
MP: $1.82
CO: $0.88
BTN: $2.05
SB: $2.01

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17) 3 5 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.17) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.11, Hero calls $0.11

River: ($0.39) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.12, BTN raises to $1.86 all in, My move???

Since the button raised I call with a made hand. When he checked the flop I put him on AA, AK possible QQ. He has stolen in position a few times. What should I do in this position?
 
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His range is much wider than that. Try any pair, suited connectors, any kind of ace and broadways. As played I'm never folding because only two hands beat you and he could be stacking with lesser sets/ two pairs/ air sometimes. Also don't slow play on the turn. This is because he showed weakness on the flop so there's a very good chance he won't bet turn and get us value+i hate giving people free cards
 
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His range is much wider than that. Try any pair, suited connectors, any kind of ace and broadways. As played I'm never folding because only two hands beat you and he could be stacking with lesser sets/ two pairs/ air sometimes. Also don't slow play on the turn. This is because he showed weakness on the flop so there's a very good chance he won't bet turn and get us value+i hate giving people free cards


Well with the current flop and turn, the only river card I would be scared of would be another diamond just in case he caught a backdoor draw or the board pairing higher than my 9. Since river came 7, only hands that have me beat are 46, 68, and KK. That is a really small range of cards to beat my hand on the river.

I will post results after a few more comments
 
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Raise turn. Never slow play in micros. Hands that stack off K7,K9,K3,K5,93,95,53,33,55,77,KK,KA,AA,KQ,KJ and proably K10 etc etc.

You catch my drift. Of all the cominations that stack off, only a very few (KK and 46 on the river) actually beat you. Get it in +ev all day.
 
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Well with the current flop and turn, the only river card I would be scared of would be another diamond just in case he caught a backdoor draw or the board pairing higher than my 9. Since river came 7, only hands that have me beat are 46, 68, and KK. That is a really small range of cards to beat my hand on the river.

I will post results after a few more comments

so what are you trying to say
 
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so what are you trying to say

he's implying he can afford to give another card because there are very few scare cards in the deck. He's failing to see the missed value he can get from raising the turn.
 
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he's implying he can afford to give another card because there are very few scare cards in the deck. He's failing to see the missed value he can get from betting the turn.

FYP
 
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Raise turn. Never slow play in micros. Hands that stack off K7,K9,K3,K5,93,95,53,33,55,77,KK,KA,AA,KQ,KJ and proably K10 etc etc.

You catch my drift. Of all the cominations that stack off, only a very few (KK and 46 on the river) actually beat you. Get it in +ev all day.

There are actually 3 hands beating my on the river ( KK , 46 and 68) but yes maybe consider just raising here on the turn if what you are saying?
 
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he's implying he can afford to give another card because there are very few scare cards in the deck. He's failing to see the missed value he can get from raising the turn.

I do see and understand now the reason I should raise the turn but now question is this:

I raise turn , villain pushes, now what??
 
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I do see and understand now the reason I should raise the turn but now question is this:

I raise turn , villain pushes, now what??

You thank God it's your lucky day and 99% of the time your BR is going to increase by a nice little amount. Then you call.
 
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Also, when you have a pocket pair in your hand and another one of your rank comes, it's called a set, not trips. Trips is where you have a 9 and two 9's come on the board. You had two 9's in your hand and one came on the turn. That's a set. It's a lot stronger hand than trips are.

When I first read your post all I saw was: trips, paired board (or at least I thought so, because you said trips in the title), shove on river, villain has a full boat.
 
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I do see and understand now the reason I should raise the turn but now question is this:

I raise turn , villain pushes, now what??

Actually, you should be LEADING the turn with a bet, and 3bet it if you get re-raised. If you get shoved on, it's a snap call. You want to be allin on this hand basically no matter what. The only possible scenario I might give a seconds pause before STILL getting my stack in is if villain is some sort of sick nit with a 1% PFR over like 100+ hands.

On this turn, the only hand we are behind is KK. As was stated earlier, the typical range for someone shoving like this at 2nl is very very wide, and depending on villain includes such doozies as top pair any kicker. If you run into KK on this turn, it's just bad luck and nine out of ten times villain is crushed by your second nuts.
 
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I agree with everyone that you should be leading with a set. Since this is the micros, it is always better to be aggressive than slowplay. You would be surprised with what some people play with and I know from experience that slowplaying can get you coolered.

In this case, you say that the hands that beat you are KK, 46 and 68. Since villain opened 4x BB, I doubt he is playing a gap connector like 68 and even more doubtful that he would play a low gap connector like 46. You could be up KK but it seems more like he has a busted flush or top pair with great kicker like AK. Insta call that shove.
 
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I do see and understand now the reason I should raise the turn but now question is this:

I raise turn , villain pushes, now what??

Now it's party time....

:party:

No real discussiuon here on this hand - if you lost to the measely combo of hands that beat you then it's a cooler....move on.
 
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