$2 NLHE Full Ring: Good fold?

pocketehs

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/11/100

Both villains have a small sample of like ~25 hands so I dont think we can take too much from their stats. Im trying to play a TAG. Based on the hand plays out I think its an easy fold, eh? However say the Villain in UTG doesnt call shove over top of the Villain in the SB - can I call then? I mean Jacks is strong pre but the raise from 4xBB to like 59BBs makes me think like QQ+ or maybe AK. What do you think in both situations?

Table 'Adalberta II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: VILLAIN #1 (UTG) ($1.58 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG +1 ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 3: MP ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 4: MP + 1 ($2.01 in chips)
Seat 5: HJ ($0.77 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($4.44 in chips)
Seat 7: BTN($2.20 in chips)
Seat 8: VILLAIN #2 (SB) ($1.18 in chips)
Seat 9: BB ($0.78 in chips)
VILLAIN #2 (SB) posts small blind $0.01
BB posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Jd Jc]
VILLAIN #1 (UTG) calls $0.02
4 folds
HERO raises $0.06 to $0.08
1 fold
VILLAIN #2 (SB) raises $1.10 to $1.18 and is all-in
BB folds
VILLAIN #1 (UTG) raises $0.40 to $1.58 and is all-in
HERO: folds

Thanks again, CC.
 
WVHillbilly

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Call. They're both 1/2 stacks and smaller pairs and Ax hands are in their ranges.
 
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I don't think you're ahead of a limp/shove UTG. Best case scenario he has AK IMO. I'd just fold it.

If UTG 1 doesn't reshove then ye I'm snapping jacks
 
bgomez89

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Utg1 could EASILY have mid pairs/Broadways. I've seen it show up with back raises a ton at these stakes.
 
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Yeah I was planning to call the Villain in the SB who made the initial shove even though it looked like he was super strong raising to 54 BBs. End result was the villain in the SB had 10s and the villain UTG had aces.
 
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dont think backraises in general are the same ranges as limp/re-shove UTG like gomez is implying. i expect AA/KK from UTG more than half the time
 
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Limp/shoves, back raises are pretty much the same ranges from half stack droolers. Of course you're going to run into AA/kk sometimes but that shouldn't be enough to deter you.
 
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