$2 NLHE Full Ring: Does it make sense for us to call an all-in here with 2-pair?

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No stats on Villain.

I called IP as I didn't feel my hand was strong enough to 3-bet. Villain made such small bets that it seemed like the correct play to raise both flop and river as I had a hand - but then was surprised when he went all-in. Is it right to call here? Thanks!

poker stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $2.76 (138 bb)
SB: $1.75 (87.5 bb)
BB: $0.96 (48 bb)
UTG+1: $2.01 (100.5 bb)
UTG+2: $6.01 (300.5 bb)
MP1: $1.08 (54 bb)
MP2: $6.21 (310.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $2.09 (104.5 bb)
CO: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J
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K
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UTG+1 raises to $0.08, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.27) 9
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J
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2
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UTG+1 bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.24, BTN folds, UTG+1 calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.75) K
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UTG+1 bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.36, UTG+1 calls $0.24

River: ($1.47) 6
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UTG+1 bets $1.33 and is all-in, Hero ???
 
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Not too sure about the flat call with KJo in MP vs UTG+1 4xbb bet since there are so many people behind to 3-bet. I think we should fold pre.

I think this is a really weird play by the villain but I think it seems like a set? What range are we putting the villain on when he opens UTG+1? Im thinking like 99+/AKs. I dont think he opens QT this early in FR but its hard to tell w/o stats. I think we call though since its not even a pot sized bet.
 
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Not too sure about the flat call with KJo in MP vs UTG+1 4xbb bet since there are so many people behind to 3-bet. I think we should fold pre.

I think this is a really weird play by the villain but I think it seems like a set? What range are we putting the villain on when he opens UTG+1? Im thinking like 99+/AKs. I dont think he opens QT this early in FR but its hard to tell w/o stats. I think we call though since its not even a pot sized bet.

Thanks pocketehs. Yes, I agree - bit of a loose call. I'm opening a bit more in HJ/CO/BTN with marginal hands hoping to hit a flop. I would definitely fold though if 3-bet. Perhaps this is another leak of mine. I've stopped calling OOP though...

I didn't put him on a set because bets were so small but then when he kept calling my raises I was really confused. :confused:
 
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Not too sure about the flat call with KJo in MP vs UTG+1 4xbb bet since there are so many people behind to 3-bet. I think we should fold pre.

I think this is a really weird play by the villain but I think it seems like a set? What range are we putting the villain on when he opens UTG+1? Im thinking like 99+/AKs. I dont think he opens QT this early in FR but its hard to tell w/o stats. I think we call though since its not even a pot sized bet.

Its tough to put villain on a range that tight at 2nl but I still agree with a fold pre. As played I would raise more on the turn and call the river, I think he can do this with busted FD and a worse 2 pair.
 
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Its tough to put villain on a range that tight at 2nl but I still agree with a fold pre. As played I would raise more on the turn and call the river, I think he can do this with busted FD and a worse 2 pair.

More than 3 times his bet on turn? Are you thinking something like 75% pot or a pot sized bet? Why do we do this? Are we trying to get stacks in at this stage or do we want him to fold?
 
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More than 3 times his bet on turn? Are you thinking something like 75% pot or a pot sized bet? Why do we do this? Are we trying to get stacks in at this stage or do we want him to fold?

When players make this min bet, from my experience it usually means theyre on a draw or just weak. Sometimes they show up with a set but not often. So I usually go about 80-90% when they do it. If he is drawing we want to make him pay for it.
 
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When players make this min bet, from my experience it usually means theyre on a draw or just weak. Sometimes they show up with a set but not often. So I usually go about 80-90% when they do it. If he is drawing we want to make him pay for it.

Thanks youregoodmate. That makes a lot of sense.
 
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Dumb question but what are the suits on the flop?
 
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Bigger raise on the turn (I'd make it 60 or 65) and you can never fold from the turn forward. Since you block sets for both Ks and Js his only real hand here is 99 and he likely 3bets the flop with 99. I'm happily calling the river shove and expecting to see worse very often.
 
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Bigger raise on the turn (I'd make it 60 or 65) and you can never fold from the turn forward. Since you block sets for both Ks and Js his only real hand here is 99 and he likely 3bets the flop with 99. I'm happily calling the river shove and expecting to see worse very often.

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Bigger raise on the turn (I'd make it 60 or 65) and you can never fold from the turn forward. Since you block sets for both Ks and Js his only real hand here is 99 and he likely 3bets the flop with 99. I'm happily calling the river shove and expecting to see worse very often.

Thanks WV - that's really helpful. I haven't yet got my head around thinking about "blockers" - I guess that's the next stage on my learning curve. I will do some reading up on it.

I read something that said you should raise 3x the original bet so that's what I have been doing but if I had been OOP and hit my hand, I would have raised 75%+ of pot so that totally makes sense.

Thanks all for your help with this.

He had KTo
 
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I read something that said you should raise 3x the original bet so that's what I have been doing but if I had been OOP and hit my hand, I would have raised 75%+ of pot so that totally makes sense.

Thanks all for your help with this.

I've already read that but dont play super structured like that. I think its better to just have a plan and here youre plan is to build the pot so that you can GII on the river. Like think about if you raise x and he calls how much he will have in relation to the pot on the river. Nice hand, Honeycrush!
 
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Thanks pocketehs. :) Yes, I'll do that from now on.
 
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