$2 NLHE Full Ring: Was this correct play with flush on board?

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Should I be slowing down more when the card that completes my straight also completes a possible flush or worse still royal flush?

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BTN: $1.04 (52 bb)
Hero (SB): $2.46 (123 bb)
BB: $0.87 (43.5 bb)
UTG+1: $2.19 (109.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.07 (53.5 bb)
MP1: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
MP2: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
MP3: $1 (50 bb)
CO: $3.23 (161.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T
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T
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2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.18) A
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J
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K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.12, MP1 calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.42) Q
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30

River: ($1.02) 8
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.72, MP1 calls $0.72

Results: $2.46 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: A
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J
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K
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Q
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8
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Cant see anything wrong with this hand, wp. Just value bet the river and fold to a raise. he can still call with top pair, 2 pair etc.
 
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WP, sizing on all streets is lovely.lol
A lot of bad players are c/c that river were there losing loads of value, but not you..
 
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Thanks guys!

Turns out he had AQo.
 
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Wp would raise more pre though is only thing I see 10c at least imo assuming your opening 3x most of the time 1bb for limper 1 more for oop
 
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Seraphim said:
Wp would raise more pre though is only thing I see 10c at least imo assuming your opening 3x most of the time 1bb for limper 1 more for oop
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Maybe im wrong in thinking, but surely the last thing you want to do oop is inflate the pot? I usually just raise 3x +1 per limper.
 
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Its just what I heard to add 1 more if you are oop makes sense to me.
 
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Theres a few reasons for doing so, 2 of the main reasons would be;
were out of pos so our perceived 3 betting range is going to be a lot stronger than what our 3 betting range would be from lets say, the button, so with a perceived stronger range, its best to have more not less money in the pot.
Also we want to play oop with as few people as possible, preferable just the 1, so we raise more to isolate just the one villain as our perceived stronger range plays better against one opponent.

Something in which I thought about when I was first introduced to the idea was that, it also creates a lower SPR and since its harder to play oop, by creating a lower spr we can make decisions easier, lk stacking off lighter or whatever....
 
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The Messiah said:
Theres a few reasons for doing so, 2 of the main reasons would be;
were out of pos so our perceived 3 betting range is going to be a lot stronger than what our 3 betting range would be from lets say, the button, so with a perceived stronger range, its best to have more not less money in the pot.
Also we want to play oop with as few people as possible, preferable just the 1, so we raise more to isolate just the one villain as our perceived stronger range plays better against one opponent.

Something in which I thought about when I was first introduced to the idea was that, it also creates a lower SPR and since its harder to play oop, by creating a lower spr we can make decisions easier, lk stacking off lighter or whatever....
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I just wrote out a whole paragraph then realised we're not talking about 3 betting :( This is just pot opening sizing.

I know 3 betting out of position will be far more common occurance than squeezing limpers and its a similar concept. I think by 3Bing 4x it just cuts out an opponents range that we dominate.
For example if we 3B the button with AQ, hes far more like to fold AJ, KQ type hands to a 4x than a 3x. Plus if he has AK he can flat and put us in a world of hurt in a bigger pot.
 
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