$2 NLHE Full Ring: Calling it off 3 streets with TPTK

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Hero (MP+1): 100 BB
MP+2: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 15.45, PFR: 11.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, hands: 123)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 36)
SB: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 59 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 59 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K
UTG raises to 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB, UTG+1 calls 6 BB
Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 3 3 K
UTG bets 17 BB, fold, Hero calls 17 BB
Turn: (62.5 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG bets 36.5 BB, Hero calls 36.5 BB
River: (135.5 BB, 2 players) 4
UTG bets 44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 37.5 BB and is all-in




If I give him a 10% range from UTG that is something like: 66+, AJo+, ATs+, KTs+.


On the flop I'm ignoring the 3s, he has 33 or x3, such a tiny fraction of the time. That means I'm beat by AA, KK (2 hands) but beating (or drawing with) everything else I put in his range (about more 16 hands)


The turn card is another misfire that almost certainly does not change anything. Could now say I'm beaten by AA, KK & 77, but beating all the rest.


The river brings a flush draw but it is not one I am worried about, a drawing hand seems unlikely the way he played it (who donk bets a backdoor flush draw?!) and as a percentage of his range/combinations I'm still holding greater equity here anyway. I'm loving the fact it is a 4, I don't see how it helps him.


How is my play here with him seemingly keep to just get it all in? I think if I play this spot 100 times I make money much more than 50% of the time, therefore it is reasonable to just keep calling it off here?
 
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Ok, here are my thoughts.

Pre: Your sizing is fairly large. I tend to stick with the 3x+1 formula, remember to use the same sizing regardless of your hand strength. Raising more with big hands is expolitable.

On the flop, i like calling. You crush most of his range so let him bluff.

On the turn, same thing. You are either way ahead or drawing dead to KK.

The river is a bit wierd. Its nl2, so the guy could have been going the whole way with QTh. but probably not. I am fine with calling. Sure, he could have limped aces, but I can't fold to under 6 combos. (You block a few) There is only one combo of KK left as well.

The only things he could have to win are limped 77 and 44, which is possible but unlikely. Call every time for me.
 
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It was a 3bet pre, UTG opened. I usually do stick to the 3x+1 principle when not in the blinds.

Appreciate the feedback on my threads, cheers :)
 
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oops! Idk what i was thinking lol. and np man!
 
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (MP+1): 100 BB
MP+2: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 15.45, PFR: 11.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 123)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 36)
SB: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 59 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 59 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A[emoji813] K[emoji812]
UTG raises to 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB, UTG+1 calls 6 BB
Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 3[emoji812] 3[emoji813] K[emoji815]
UTG bets 17 BB, fold, Hero calls 17 BB
Turn: (62.5 BB, 2 players) 7[emoji813]
UTG bets 36.5 BB, Hero calls 36.5 BB
River: (135.5 BB, 2 players) 4[emoji813]
UTG bets 44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 37.5 BB and is all-in




If I give him a 10% range from UTG that is something like: 66+, AJo+, ATs+, KTs+.


On the flop I'm ignoring the 3s, he has 33 or x3, such a tiny fraction of the time. That means I'm beat by AA, KK (2 hands) but beating (or drawing with) everything else I put in his range (about more 16 hands)


The turn card is another misfire that almost certainly does not change anything. Could now say I'm beaten by AA, KK & 77, but beating all the rest.


The river brings a flush draw but it is not one I am worried about, a drawing hand seems unlikely the way he played it (who donk bets a backdoor flush draw?!) and as a percentage of his range/combinations I'm still holding greater equity here anyway. I'm loving the fact it is a 4, I don't see how it helps him.


How is my play here with him seemingly keep to just get it all in? I think if I play this spot 100 times I make money much more than 50% of the time, therefore it is reasonable to just keep calling it off here?
Your 3bet pre is too small.

Vs just the opener you should 3bet to 10-12bb, with the caller you need to go at least 12bb, but I would choose 15bb.

I like flop call. I would jam turn, as they aren't likely to be bluffing and will not likely fold a K.
 
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Im so used to playing deep i didn't even see that we have 35ish left on the turn. Just jam here, agree with ^^

What did he have? I feel a chop pot coming, but he could have had some KQ too.
 
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Vs just the opener you should 3bet to 10-12bb, with the caller you need to go at least 12bb, but I would choose 15bb.

Just to be clear, you're suggesting standard 3bet size at micro cash is more effective at about 3.3 to 4 x bb, rather than just 3x?

Noted regarding upping it with the caller there, something I'd overlooked.


Can't recall exactly what he turned over TenJack, I'll check and post it when I get home. I do recall I took down the pot, think he might have had QQ or JJ.
 
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Some people at 2nl just aren't capable of folding something shiny like QQ, JJ on a board that is bad for them. gh, awsome to get value from something you dominated!
 
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Preflop standard 3 Bet sizing could be a bit bigger but on micros well they prob don't fold easy anyway so AK does not have to 3 bet large. You want to see a flop before you bloat the pot to much.

Two people call and the flop favors your hand big time. UTG donk bets into two people on the flop. Man in between folds you call. So far standard play.

On the turn he bets out again. That looks very strong your now on a crossroad does he has it or not. Should you give up or continue. There are 6 AK combos still and 1 KK combo and 3 AA combos. So there are actually only 4 combos that beat you. He can also have worse K's such as KQs (two combos) and he can have air. Would not like it but would call, would never jam in this situation your IP. Only AK or better can call you on a jam and by just calling you give the villain the opportunity to bluff the river.
 
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