$2 NLHE Full Ring: Calling with AK, a sin?

Usually you would say that with AK you should go allin preflop, I tend to fold AK though if someone (not a LAG) shoves and will force me allin. This player I have not known to be loose on 2NL.

I will probably get critique for calling here?
In hindsight I have difficulty thinking of a hand I could beat, it would be QQ or AK like my own.

How should I play preflop and flop? The 2/3 pot sized bet on flop confuses me, I would fold to a pot-sized bet here.

pokerstars Hand #76034871954: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD)
Table 'Dejopeja IV' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: CistaCista ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: el036 ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: Dornauge67 ($2.48 in chips)
Seat 4: wiwi55 ($0.46 in chips)
Seat 5: rjcvjc ($4.42 in chips)
Seat 6: musa955 ($2.48 in chips)
Seat 7: habahen ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 8: pollibbio ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 9: djozeppo27 ($1.01 in chips)
CistaCista: posts small blind $0.01
el036: posts big blind $0.02

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CistaCista [As Kh]
Dornauge67: folds
wiwi55: raises $0.06 to $0.08
rjcvjc has timed out
rjcvjc: folds
musa955: folds
habahen: folds
pollibbio: folds
djozeppo27: folds
CistaCista: raises $0.22 to $0.30
el036: raises $0.50 to $0.80
wiwi55: folds
CistaCista: calls $0.50

*** FLOP *** [5s Kd 4h](pot is 1.71?)
CistaCista: checks
el036: bets $1.02
CistaCista: calls $1.02

*** TURN *** [5s Kd 4h] [Td](pot is 3.75)
CistaCista: checks
el036: bets $3.18 and is all-in

First i think its awful thinking that AK is a usual all in hand. Im glad you dont adhere to that.

Second you 3b a utg player which shows amazing strength especially since youre in the blinds. In fact i think its overvaluing AK here a lot.

Third you get cold 4b by the bb. Hes not bluffing here and you dont beat any value hand he could have. I would fold to his 4b.

If you get it all in you will be flipping or behind which is not good.

If you call youre oop and vs a very strong range. If you hit your A or K you wont always be good and you wont get paid off by worse. If you miss you are folding anyway.

Why do you think a 2/3 psb is worth a call and a psb is a fold?

dooydoo said:

First i think its awful thinking that AK is a usual all in hand. Im glad you dont adhere to that.

Second you 3b a utg player which shows amazing strength especially since youre in the blinds. In fact i think its overvaluing AK here a lot.

Third you get cold 4b by the bb. Hes not bluffing here and you dont beat any value hand he could have. I would fold to his 4b.

If you get it all in you will be flipping or behind which is not good.

If you call youre oop and vs a very strong range. If you hit your A or K you wont always be good and you wont get paid off by worse. If you miss you are folding anyway.

Why do you think a 2/3 psb is worth a call and a psb is a fold?

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beat me to it..

it's 2nl though, pretty sure a lot of the fish there will happily stack any two.

folding > raising > calling

I'd get in in pre-flop hopefully. 2NL players are mostly retards and as long as people stack off with AJ, AQ type hands stack off with AK type hands.

Why wouldn't you just get this aipf? It's 2nl you'll be up against a lot of worse hands and flipping at worst usually.

Shove preflop. Calling the 4bet is HORRIBLE! Also folding to the 4bet is MUCH better than calling it. Hell min 5betting is MUCH better than calling it.

Fold pre.

*I don't believe people cold 4bet bluff at 2NL.
*We're 250BB deep
*OP stated villain is not loose so he isn't some 67/54 maniac

Deco said:

Fold pre.

*I don't believe people cold 4bet bluff at 2NL.
*We're 250BB deep
*OP stated villain is not loose so he isn't some 67/54 maniac

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They don't class it as a bluff, they think it's for value.

Yea fold actually, didn't realise effective stacks were 250BB , just looked at yours.

Deco said:

Fold pre.

*I don't believe people cold 4bet bluff at 2NL.
*We're 250BB deep
*OP stated villain is not loose so he isn't some 67/54 maniac

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Im down for this

I would fold to the 4bet. Unless he is a pure maniac (80/60 stats) players just do not cold 4bet at NL2 without KK+, sometimes it is AA only. For you guys saying shove preflop, check the stack sizes. And honestly, even if were only 100bb, versus a standard super nit reg at NL2 (10/8) this is still a very easy fold.

Thanks for the replies. Yes I agree with those comments that say I should have folded preflop. In hindsight my only hope of winning was against QQ or KK if I hit.

For those that say I should go allin - I have marked hundreds of donks and maniacs on 2NL. This could be a maniac I haven't met before, but I will not assume that.
And he had AA in this case.

Seeing as he's bought in for full and seems to have auto-rebuy on, i'd assume this guy isn't a total donk. Being 250BB deep i'd fold as his 5b calling or shoving range will probably have us crushed.
However 100bb deep i'm shoving. We still have ~30% equity against KK and he's likely to 3b QQ and maybe JJ here too if he thinks we're retarded so i'm happy stacking that range for 100bb

jbbb said:

he's likely to 3b QQ and maybe JJ here too if he thinks we're retarded so i'm happy stacking that range for 100bb

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Villain is cold 4betting, not 3betting.
UTG raised
SB/Hero 3bets
BB 4bets

I like folding pre.

A nl$2 cold 4-bets and we have AKo ? We know he is not a maniac.

I fold and dont have a second thought about it.

This is a fold, but seriously if youre folding AK to a lot of people at 2nl which it seems you are it's probably a big leak. There are far too many fish that will stack with worse hands who dont even look like pure maniacs.

acky100 said:

This is a fold, but seriously if youre folding AK to a lot of people at 2nl which it seems you are it's probably a big leak. There are far too many fish that will stack with worse hands who dont even look like pure maniacs.

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Solid advice.

Bad turn call, should have folded. Your out 1/3 of your chips by that move. Made the same mistake more than once today.

acky100 said:

This is a fold, but seriously if youre folding AK to a lot of people at 2nl which it seems you are it's probably a big leak. There are far too many fish that will stack with worse hands who dont even look like pure maniacs.

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This, but you can't flop the nuts and then fold now