$2 NLHE Full Ring: Call the river?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 13/6/27

Is the check raise on the flop ok? And should I have called the river or not?

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (BB): $2.59
UTG: $2.00
UTG+1: $2.00
MP: $0.26
MP+1: $3.79
LP: $1.17
CO: $3.26
BTN: $0.64
SB: $2.13
SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 9♠ 9♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.08, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) 3♥ J♠ 9♥
Hero checks, CO bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.41, 2 players) K♦
Hero checks, CO bets $0.32, Hero raises to $0.66, CO raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.34

River: ($2.41, 2 players) 5♣
Hero checks, CO bets $1.14, Hero ?????

1st you didn't ch/raise the flop. You should have, but you didn't.

As played why aren't you all-in on the turn? I mean your min raise is horrible but when he bails you out by re min raising just go ahead and get it in.

River isn't even a question. Just open shove your last $1.40.

Hand was really poorly played postflop.

I meant C/R the turn, sorry.

I think by C/R the flop I would have pushed to many hands off. I wanted him to make another bet on the turn and then C/R.

Grindabod said:

I meant C/R the turn, sorry.

I think by C/R the flop I would have pushed to many hands off. I wanted him to make another bet on the turn and then C/R.

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There are more hands he's going to be willing to get in on the flop than turn. c/r flop 100%.

This hand is a mess. Why are you not allin on the turn? River is a shove. Are you actually considering folding?

I wish I had folded

So I would generally get more out of c/r the flop because of the expectation villain has for a good turn card, and this outweighs the time he will fold and not make another c-bet on the turn?

Grindabod said:

I wish I had folded

So I would generally get more out of c/r the flop because of the expectation villain has for a good turn card, and this outweighs the time he will fold and not make another c-bet on the turn?

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Don't be results oriented. If you want to complain about a bad beat this isn't the right forum.

We c/r the flop because it's a great board for your tight villain to stack TP+ and he may get scared if an overcard or heart comes on the turn. It's pretty unlikely that he folds anything to a flop c/r that he bets again on the turn anyway.

Ok, I think I get it. Would you do the same with an overpair or two pairs or is this more standard with a set or better?

Grindabod said:

Ok, I think I get it. Would you do the same with an overpair or two pairs or is this more standard with a set or better?

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depends on the situation and who you're facing.

But yes, c/r flop all day. This is because CO will stack overpairs and probably call with decent draws and TP.

Grindabod said:

I wish I had folded

So I would generally get more out of c/r the flop because of the expectation villain has for a good turn card, and this outweighs the time he will fold and not make another c-bet on the turn?

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If we have an overpair on that flop we should have 3bet preflop and yeah def. c/r 2pair+.

You're playing 2NL. Quit trying to make fancy plays when there's little or no reason to do so. This seems to be a fairly common theme in your posts.

You say you slow-played your set to keep the opponent in. But what are you going to get additional value from by doing this compared to c/r'ing the flop?

If he has JJ, it's a cooler. Whether you slowplay or c/r isn't likely to matter since set vs set usually means playing for stacks. That's just how it is.

If he has AA KK or QQ, he's at least calling your c/r. Likely not folding AJ either. And might also continue with some other holdings. But with KK or QQ, he might shut down if the turn is an overcard. Similarly with AJ if it's a K or Q.

Otoh, if you c/r and he folds, what's he likely to have that you'd get more value from by slowplaying? It seems like a small range, which means you don't lose much by trying to cater to it, and you may risk more than you stand to gain.

I would raise the flop

Ya, don't slowplay your sets. I talk about this over and over again at micro and used to even at small stakes, but some small stakes games now a days you can slowplay. But micros, you just want to plan to get your money in the quickest, and the best way is to lead or check raise the flop.

WVHillbilly said:

1st you didn't ch/raise the flop. You should have, but you didn't.

As played why aren't you all-in on the turn? I mean your min raise is horrible but when he bails you out by re min raising just go ahead and get it in.

River isn't even a question. Just open shove your last $1.40.

Hand was really poorly played postflop.

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Just end the thread after this post really.