$2 NLHE Full Ring: Am I maximizing my value here?

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pokerstars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 99 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 1)
BTN: 193 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 53.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 122.5 BB (VPIP: 21.13, PFR: 15.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 72)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has As Qs
UTG raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop : (9.5 BB, 3 players) 3s Tc Ad
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold

Turn : (17.5 BB, 2 players) 2h
Hero checks, CO checks

River : (17.5 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero bets 8.5 BB, fold

Hero wins 17 BB

Notice that while it's at a full ring table, we are only 5 players dealt in. Is that something to take into account when assigning ranges to my opponents, or should I just assume that my opponents are playing with the same range as they would, if there were 9 players in the hand?

Anyways, I were unsure whether I should 3bet or just call preflop, but as played, what do you think of my postflop decisions? Should I play it differently and go for more value along the way, playing it more aggressively, or is my passive approach okay? Or is it outright terrible?

As always, love to hear from you, give me your honest opinions :)
 
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I doubt the villain is calling this bet after he checks the turn. So either a bluffier bet or a small bet might be a better choice? But I don't think he bets river if checked too.

Also AQs out of position is sometimes tricky when you get called. I don't mind just calling and playing 3 way.
 
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Why did you check the turn?


Because he was out of position, and he already check called a bet from CO, who we have no info on.

This is a totally standard hand. Well played.


If you C/R, you would often only get calls by better. If we donk turn, and CO calls, we don't know what he has, and we in no man's land.


I like the play, line is fine, low variance line, nothing crazy. Well played OP.

We could argue C/C River to induce, but I don't mind this.
 
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I'd rather lead the flop, especially in a microstakes game. Players don't cbet nearly as often multiway.

Nothing terrible about the way you played this though.
 
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Because he was out of position, and he already check called a bet from CO, who we have no info on.

This is a totally standard hand. Well played.


If you C/R, you would often only get calls by better. If we donk turn, and CO calls, we don't know what he has, and we in no man's land.


I like the play, line is fine, low variance line, nothing crazy. Well played OP.

We could argue C/C River to induce, but I don't mind this.

Nice to hear, but what worries me is that I had no idea why I made those plays, and after analyzing it still didn't have any clue if it was the best line of action or not.

Going back to the original question is if I'm actually missing out on value by not 3betting preflop, and/or should play more aggressive preflop. Can I assume that the majority of players at 2nl are kinda weak, and should be able to call down with 2nd best hands more often than not? Or is this not the case with Pstars anymore?

Or is the key to actually play more carefully until I have some better stats on my opponents to know if they are a fish or a tag type player?
 
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Nice to hear, but what worries me is that I had no idea why I made those plays, and after analyzing it still didn't have any clue if it was the best line of action or not.

Going back to the original question is if I'm actually missing out on value by not 3betting preflop, and/or should play more aggressive preflop. Can I assume that the majority of players at 2nl are kinda weak, and should be able to call down with 2nd best hands more often than not? Or is this not the case with Pstars anymore?

Or is the key to actually play more carefully until I have some better stats on my opponents to know if they are a fish or a tag type player?


Do you want to play easy and low risk poker, or do you want to play a higher variance version?

You could 3b pre, blast away post. However, you are going to run into it sometimes. You will value own yourself sometimes too, and lose a bigger pot than is necessary. But the times you are right, you will make more.

OOP, I think your line is fine. If you want to 3b and get max value, do it IP. Position just makes everything easier to play. Stats and reads on opponents can help for sure. It's still tough to play OOP. I tend to take lower variance, easier routes when OOP, and play it safe more.


It's really your choice. Asses your current skill level honestly, and decide how you want to play hands.

It's A-Q by the way, which can def get you into trouble sometimes.
 
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