$2 NLHE Full Ring: AKo vs Q8s on flush draw board.

zipper2000

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 60/60/33

BTN: $2.46
SB: $2.86
BB: $1.73
UTG: $2.51
UTG+1: $1.61
UTG+2: $2.47
Hero (MP1): $1.14
MP2: $2.08
CO: $3.68

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with K
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A
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1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.31) T
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Q
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K
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(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.14, UTG+1 raises to $1.47 all in, Hero calls $0.86 all in

Turn: ($2.31) A
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(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($2.31) J
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(2 players - 2 are all in)
 
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You're likely to get better feedback if you say why you chose each of your actions instead of just showing the hand history.
 
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I don't understand why you are in a min raising war pre-flop. You should be raising to at least .20 on your first action. Even if he only calls you have more in the pot than you have with the three raises pre. If he raises then you are shoving and in really good shape almost always.

Your bet on the flop should be much larger. At least 2/3 pot, maybe 3/4. Then calling his shove makes more sense. As it is you are calling off with a single pair, yes it is TPTK, but it is a single pair facing a check raise all in. You've created a crappy position for yourself by being too timid. I don't like calling here, but I guess you have to.

One of the goals when playing poker is to make your decisions as easy as possible. You did not accomplish that.
 
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Not sure what you were doing preflop... You also seemed confident enough to call a very large all in raise on the flop so I presume you thought you had him beat? What did you have him on that you called this raise for?
 
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I normally like to raise it 50-60 pre or GII against villain like that... Put him in tough spots since he'll like to use most flops against us with a 60vpip.


Also 1/2 pot size bet appears weak?... We got our top pair top kicker but with a wet board like this, our opponent will have a lot in his range that beats us and we will only beat a bluff unless we get serious help on later streets. Also we will be turning our AK into a bluff quite ez in this spot and we shouldn't be bluffing much at the micros. hope this helps

I think it's a simple fold on the flop, calling is turning a mess into a catastrophe.


If he's got nut flush draw he's doing a +ev play tho a high varience move.


Anyways think better next time and remember flop texture plays a big part with big slick.
 
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Aces2w1n said:
I normally like to raise it 50-60 pre or GII against villain like that... Put him in tough spots since he'll like to use most flops against us with a 60vpip.


Also 1/2 pot size bet appears weak?... We got our top pair top kicker but with a wet board like this, our opponent will have a lot in his range that beats us and we will only beat a bluff unless we get serious help on later streets. Also we will be turning our AK into a bluff quite ez in this spot and we shouldn't be bluffing much at the micros. hope this helps

I think it's a simple fold on the flop, calling is turning a mess into a catastrophe.


If he's got nut flush draw he's doing a +ev play tho a high varience move.


Anyways think better next time and remember flop texture plays a big part with big slick.
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Im always using Middle Stack Strategy. Dude had 21,59% to win on turn, so it was not good play.
 
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I like folding here. It is a wet board and knowing how a lot of it hits you, TPTK is probably not good. Almost nobody has the capacity to bluff that at microstakes, so I would put him on KQ or AQ of clubs.
 
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why min 3bet? the all in on the flop is ok, since is nl2 but I don't like the min 3bet and then the call. the 3bet should be 18 and if he reraises why not shove?
 
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zipper2000 said:
Im always using Middle Stack Strategy. Dude had 21,59% to win on turn, so it was not good play.
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Well the flop play for our villain was important and he has a lot of fold equity to make this move. But this is micro and is our villain this clever? doubtful
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Scrover said:
I like folding here. It is a wet board and knowing how a lot of it hits you, TPTK is probably not good. Almost nobody has the capacity to bluff that at microstakes, so I would put him on KQ or AQ of clubs.
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Very difficult to fold in this situation. Opponent was played 60% hands, my two pairs is a huge monster...
 
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zipper2000 said:
Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 60/60/33

BTN: $2.46
SB: $2.86
BB: $1.73
UTG: $2.51
UTG+1: $1.61
UTG+2: $2.47
Hero (MP1): $1.14
MP2: $2.08
CO: $3.68

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with K
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A
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1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.04

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A small reraise here can be a very good idea, in fact its probably best. As a general rule maybe go a little bigger like 2.2x. Did you have some history with him?

zipper2000 said:
Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 60/60/33

BTN: $2.46
SB: $2.86
BB: $1.73
UTG: $2.51
UTG+1: $1.61
UTG+2: $2.47
Hero (MP1): $1.14
MP2: $2.08
CO: $3.68

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with K
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A
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1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.31) T
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Q
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K
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(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.14, UTG+1 raises to $1.47 all in, Hero calls $0.86 all in

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This flop is not fun, however I think you did what you had to do.

I like to play a mid stack as well and I know it can get weird on a flop like this with those stack sizes. Nothing you can do though.
 
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