$2 NLHE Full Ring: AKo UTG vs UTG+1 3bet

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We had no weird history, I was probably seen as a fairly TAG reg by him.

full tilt poker $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2903582
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CO: $1.58 - VPIP: 2, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, hands: 45
BTN: $3.94 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 53
SB: $2.84 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.8, Hands: 59
BB: $1.99 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 14.0, Hands: 190
Hero (UTG): $2.22
UTG+1: $2.35 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 6, AF: 4.2, Hands: 276
MP1: $2.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 7, 3B: 8, AF: 1.5, Hands: 43
MP2: $2.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 2.0, Hands: 144

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K :heart: A :club:
Hero raises to $0.06, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, 6 folds Hero?
 
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We had no weird history, I was probably seen as a fairly TAG reg by him.

Full Tilt Poker $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2903582
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $1.58 - VPIP: 2, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 45
BTN: $3.94 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 53
SB: $2.84 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.8, Hands: 59
BB: $1.99 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 14.0, Hands: 190
Hero (UTG): $2.22
UTG+1: $2.35 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 6, AF: 4.2, Hands: 276
MP1: $2.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 7, 3B: 8, AF: 1.5, Hands: 43
MP2: $2.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 2.0, Hands: 144

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K <font color='red'>♥</font> A <font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero raises to $0.06, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, 6 folds Hero?


I don't really understand the stats that well. It looks to me like dude is aggro, he's very tight preflop, and he 3bets often? Is this right?

If that's the case, we could argue 4bet to like $0.75ish, and fold to 5b? I don't like just calling here, OOP. What is this dudes 3b range here? Is it say JJ+ or A-Q+? Or do we feel like he's much wider than that?

Based on my very limited understanding of stats, it looks like dude is as tight as a snare drum.

Help me out and give me a rundown of stats.

However, with AK here, we could just make a prudent fold, if only due to the fact we will plaYing OOP with possibly a reverse-implied odds hand. If we just call, we are in no-man's land, on and island, in the cage, etc.
 
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He's tight, and he's raising your TAG UTG open. His range here - if he's a thinking player - should be VERY tight. Possibly even KK+.

A fold is probably best. You need to spike an A or K, and even then, you could be dead in the water. If you don't spike an A or K, you're likely still behind, or chopping at best.
 
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for me its a fold I think, Just as Timovie said he will have kk+ very often.
 
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Is that become a trend to over respect regs at 2 and 5 nl? AK is stackoff at this limits, even against 2nl reg, regs at 2 nl are not positional aware, meaning that most of them with abc style have fixed 3bet range at every position against every position, i know cuz i beat 2 and 5 nl and was break even at 10nl without having ranges balanced by positions...
 
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Is that become a trend to over respect regs at 2 and 5 nl?
Over respect? No. Respect? At Stars and WPN for me - yes, absolutely.
I barely maintain 2.5 bb/100 at WPN 2NL and got my ass handed back to me at Stars 2NL for tangling with the regs.

Note that my advice came with the caveat - if he's a thinking player -.
 
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He definitely is a thinking player but his level of thinking is more often merged to be the same at every positions specially when it comes to 3bet, there is lot more often fixed 3bet range than adjusted to positions against positions, against that fixed range AK is 4bet for value and eventually stackoff
 
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I hate stacking off pre with AK. You are at best flipping a coin MOST of the time at these stakes. We don't have to take spots where we are only flipping a coin. We can find much better spots to get our money in.
 
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Flat since it's an early position dynamic against someone who is already tight. AK to good to fold and we don't want to turn it into a 4-bet bluff. If we miss the flop we call one bet and perhaps two. If we hit an A or K on the flop frequently donk bet/re-raise to get value from other worse top pairs or underpairs calling down thinking you would never raise a top pair hand. This is from the strategy article "Preflop 6-max Poker Slowplaying section.
 
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I think that is a fold. I don't know the odds, but I'm certain that any pocket pair beats you more often than not. He is probably only 3betting pocket pairs or AK.
 
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