$2 NLHE Full Ring: 99 hit trips on river vs reraise ?

Guy was an unknown at the 2 NL. put me in one of those spots where you trap yourself.
pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
UTG ($1.81)
UTG+1 ($2.06)
MP1 ($1.61)
MP2 ($0.80)
CO ($3.12)
Hero (Button) ($1.95)
SB ($1.55)
BB ($2.05)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , 9
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.10, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.23) 3 , 8 , K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.16, MP1 calls $0.16
Turn: ($0.55) A (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.55) 9 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP1 raises to $0.88, Hero ????

ughhh hate spots like this. Think this is a check back on the river but as played pretty sure we're beat after we get check raised. Fold.

I know it's gross to check back after you get there but only the biggest fish are paying you off with a K. We know he doesn't have an ace so the only other hands in his range that will put more money in is draws, which got there and just happen to beat you.

As played it is a fold, consider thinking about what I said above before you bet in these spots. Only against the sort of player who call triple barrels with A high should you be betting against in this spot.

Edit: I would probably bet the turn here, what is your reasoning for missing out there?

just call,
first of all he's an unknown at 2nl, plus he's sitting on a 80bb stack, which usually indicates weakness.
I think a lot of donks would raise you here with hands like AK or even AQ AJ.
Also if they have a set of 3's or 8's they'll definetly raise you here.
You only have to be right 1/4 times here, and against a 2nl donk you definetly are, so just flat.

ScottishMatt said:

I know it's gross to check back after you get there but only the biggest fish are paying you off with a K. We know he doesn't have an ace so the only other hands in his range that will put more money in is draws, which got there and just happen to beat you.

As played it is a fold, consider thinking about what I said above before you bet in these spots. Only against the sort of player who call triple barrels with A high should you be betting against in this spot.

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You don't think a passive fish could do this with an ace?

You feel a passive player, a player who is afraid of betting, is willing to raise here instead of making a bet OTT?

This is much worse for him and a lot scarier that betting the ace when he gets there.

Passive players don't check raise rivers with top pair when the flush gets there.

ScottishMatt said:

You feel a passive player, a player who is afraid of betting, is willing to raise here instead of making a bet OTT?

This is much worse for him and a lot scarier that betting the ace when he gets there.

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I see a lot of fish checking all the way to the river and ten betting on the river, to be clear, I'm talking about players who don't think at all, they might even not see the flush. (I know I always looked past flushes when I just started out)
I haven't played 2nl for a long time tho, so I might be very wrong about their skill-level. still I'd personally call here, but If he's a thinking player it's a fold.

ScottishMatt said:

I know it's gross to check back after you get there but only the biggest fish are paying you off with a K. We know he doesn't have an ace so the only other hands in his range that will put more money in is draws, which got there and just happen to beat you.

As played it is a fold, consider thinking about what I said above before you bet in these spots. Only against the sort of player who call triple barrels with A high should you be betting against in this spot.

Edit: I would probably bet the turn here, what is your reasoning for missing out there?

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i didnt bet the turn cause he calls the 16 cents on the flop and has me worried he caught a king and since i dont know him i dont wanna make the pot too big i go for a little pot control here on the turn.

His river check reraise was a pretty strong move for someone at 2NL. makes you think: did he just play me or does he really suck.

Your playing micros he could have anything!!!!I'd say he's pushing u because he hit the 8 ? in micros I'd def call this hand, but then that's just me !!I've just seen this type of play to many times an sit there thinking why? :tongue:

vinylspiros said:

His river check reraise was a pretty strong move for someone at 2NL. makes you think: did he just play me or does he really suck.

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Oh, I didn't even think about the possibility he might bluff, even more reason to call In my opinion.

BvBrMTW said:

Oh, I didn't even think about the possibility he might bluff, even more reason to call In my opinion.

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how good of a read on me does he have to have to be bluffing here. i bet 90% on river when flush hit. who reraises a 90% bet with air on that board at 2NL? lol

I think it's just a call...why open it up when he took the obvious draw line in the hand plus if he doesnt have a flush then its unlikely he has a hand that would call you.

vinylspiros said:

how good of a read on me does he have to have to be bluffing here. i bet 90% on river when flush hit. who reraises a 90% bet with air on that board at 2NL? lol

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Again: if he's learning the game or a thinking player he always has you beat her.
But: he's a 80bb 2nl player, so he could be any kid who just saw poker on tv and decided to go crazy.

Use auto top off. Do not check back the river. Do not fold and do not raise when he makes it 88 cents. 48 into 231 is just over 20% off the top of my head and against an unknown 2NL player we can't say we're beat more than 80% of the time. We only know he's bad (regardless of his hole cards) for not shoving, but I'm looking him up.

Checking back the river is burning money.
As played I call, his sizing makes weaker sets and twopair a greater possibility and we have amazing odds so don't need to win very often.

Assuming you called I play this the same.