$2 NLHE Full Ring: 88 against weird action

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $2.12
UTG: $2.32
UTG+1: $2.11
MP: $1.99
Hero (MP+1): $2.68
CO: $1.86
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.01

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 8:club: 8:spade:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, fold, Hero raises to $0.14, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.24, Hero??

If it doesn't say, villain is 76/6/71 over 17 hands. Originally I was just looking to isolate him, but what do I do now?

Now you fold. Also, just call his min-raise preflop. When a 76/6 raises, he's usually got a pretty good hand. The min-raise is most likely just him trying to "get action" when he's got QQ or whatever.

Thanks. I never know how to play against these guys. I always make costly mistakes just assuming they are awful.

set-mine in 4-bet pots ftw

seriously, 10 cents to call with 104 BBs behind, I'm calling all the time against this clown.

Pot odds for that certainly came into my mind. I was tilted at this point after losing a big hand. Are there any types of players that we are looking to get it in with 88? Like 5-bet willing to shove to any raise? I realize his raise stats are so tight that he doesn't make a good candidate, but what would his pfr stats need to be? Or would I really need to just watch his 3-bet+ %

I cannot imagine many scenarios where 5-bet shoving 88 pre is going to work out in FR games esp. vs. an EP raiser. When I was playing 6-max cash a lot I was getting to the point of shipping 99 occasionally in late position battles, esp. blind vs. blind, and against certain people I knew would stack off with AQ/AK and occasionally smaller pairs and pretty much TT/JJ/AK against a lot of people but I don't think I got it in with 88 very often.

Personally, I don't three bet small and medium pairs, but I'd call min-raise 4-bet. He should have a big pair and your implied odds of getting paid off with a set should be there.

you have to call the extra .10 cents on this monkey...if you flop the set, then scoop and if not, throw it away

HomeBrewer said:

Are there any types of players that we are looking to get it in with 88? Like 5-bet willing to shove to any raise? I realize his raise stats are so tight that he doesn't make a good candidate, but what would his pfr stats need to be? Or would I really need to just watch his 3-bet+ %

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Pretty wide, but I've shipped 88 before preflop in a few select instances.

Don't 3bet this preflop. Flat. As played it's pretty close to calling to set mine since he min raised but there won't be a ton of profit in it long term.

As for shipping 88 pre? I'd want him to be super loose and aggro preflop before I considered it. Like 80/60 with a 50% 3bet or something. It's still a super high variance play though and I'm actually going to go with the old cliche that you'll often be able to find a better spot against that type player that getting 8s in pre.

Thanks all.

WVH you hammered everyone's responce into my brain.

WVHillbilly said:

As for shipping 88 pre? I'd want him to be super loose and aggro preflop before I considered it. Like 80/60 with a 50% 3bet or something. It's still a super high variance play though and I'm actually going to go with the old cliche that you'll often be able to find a better spot against that type player that getting 8s in pre.

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This I can understand. I am really focussing on my cash game skills these next few months as I am going to Vegas in May. I just get sick of these guys playing ATC and I have to dump a decent hand when they decide they are bored and are just going to go crazy aggro retard.

I guess that is the answer right there...just relax and wait until you have it and punish them