$2 NLHE Full Ring: 2NL ZOOM FR: Was this a bad play?

pokerstars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($1.02)
SB ($2.09)
BB ($2.32)
UTG ($1.54)
UTG+1 ($1.53)
MP1 ($2.79)
MP2 ($5.15)
Hero (MP3) ($4.17)
CO ($2.04)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q , Q
UTG raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.27) 7 , 8 , 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.14, UTG raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.83) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.83) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $0.83 | Rake: $0.03

Results below:


So my thoughts on this: The 3-bet was way to small considering I had position on him. I can't really tell anything about the villian at this point, I figured he might have a middle pair, but I decided to check the hand down just to be assured. But I feel I might have played it the wrong way, since I'm missing out on some value here. What do you guys think?

Pre flop I think making it more like .18c is better

On the flop I would be betting closer to .20c for value. When villain check raises I think we can call and decide what to do on the turn.

On the turn I would bet .50c to .60c and fold if villain jams, but checking back isn't terrible.

On the river I think checking back is ok, villain could have check raised Ax as a bluff on the flop then given up on the turn, or check raised a draw, so your not getting called by worse very often.

Raise pre larger

Rape the flop
Rape the inoccuous turn.

Check back a danger card on the river, and fold to major aggression.

If inoccuous like a 2 or 4, shove the river.

Sounds nuts but this is 2NL

EDIT: minraise means a lot of things at micros, don't be too surprised a huge part of villain's minraise range are OESDs , overpairs and any 9

I'm in constant fear of being cooled at ZOOM. Not unusual to be behind with qq.
Thanks for the pointers, I'll take it with me.

Cheers

BoddJonar said:

I'm in constant fear of being cooled at ZOOM. Not unusual to be behind with qq.
Thanks for the pointers, I'll take it with me.

Cheers

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it happens a lot in zoom... but if opponent notice you are weak or you play like you are he will push you to fold...
todat i lost AA to QQ,AK to A8 and all the shizzle but overall you gain more... so allways when you 3B do it 3 times more than raiser...

if he 4bet to you than you can think he have AA or KK... hope it helps

I would of 3 bet to about $0.75 on the flop tbh. If he calls that I would then check it down.

Honestly, raise more pre-flop: 3 or 4x his open. (fold to 4bet or shove vs any decent player) This would make the whole rest of the hand very easy to play. C-bet bigger here (about pot) because you are leaving money on the table c-betting like 1/2 pot with an over pair in a 3bet pot. Plus you take away ALL of his fold equity when you are clearly pot committed with your bet - you make him make the tough decision. Also, his CR on that flop screams draw or pair and a draw. (yes sets are possible, but a straight or 2 pair should be highly unlikely here if you bet enough pre-flop, and AA or KK usually look to get it in pre flop in a 3bet pot.) Against most 2nl players I would feel comfortable getting it in, especially if I made the larger pre-flop 3bet.

Also note that pre-flop effective stack sizes were only 76bb, so the larger bets actually make this hand easier to play, and make villain calling a big three bet with anything weaker than your QQ a long term losing position, even if you get it in on any flop without an A or K..

BoddJonar said:

I'm in constant fear of being cooled at ZOOM. Not unusual to be behind with qq.
Thanks for the pointers, I'll take it with me.

Cheers

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When you're afraid to bet properly, you're what's called scared money, and you won't be appropriately aggressive. So when you feel this way, don't play.

It is highly unusual to be behind pre- with QQ. The odds of a person being dealt AA or KK are about 0.45% each, so 0.9% total. Multiply by the number of people still live when you 3bet (5 in this hand) and your QQ is ahead about 95% of the time even after narrowing the opener's range because he did open. This isn't a time to be reluctant to put money into the pot.

Yes but nitty people can sit whole day and just fastfold till they hit AA KK and play only that 2 hands

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Arjonius said:

When you're afraid to bet properly, you're what's called scared money, and you won't be appropriately aggressive. So when you feel this way, don't play.

It is highly unusual to be behind pre- with QQ. The odds of a person being dealt AA or KK are about 0.45% each, so 0.9% total. Multiply by the number of people still live when you 3bet (5 in this hand) and your QQ is ahead about 95% of the time even after narrowing the opener's range because he did open. This isn't a time to be reluctant to put money into the pot.

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Yes, I know QQ is ahead loads of time. But I'm saying in ZOOM I've called shoves loads of time with KK, usually the villian shows AA.
I mean, it happens way more frequently then math says it should.
That is enough for scaring me sadly.
I'm gonna stick with stt's for now.

Ty very much for the answers guys, all of you!

Cheers