$2 NLHE Full Ring: 2nl- Just checking if a standard call

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/1/1.75

Only had a few hands on villain when had this hand the stats are from after the session and about 150 hands with villain. Just wondered about there limp then shove.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $1.62
BTN: $1.38
SB: $2.01
Hero (BB): $2.14
UTG: $0.76

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A:heart: K:heart:

fold, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, CO raises to $1.62 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $1.52

Flop: ($3.26, 2 players) 4:heart: Q:heart: J:diamond:

Turn: ($3.26, 2 players) 3:spade:

River: ($3.26, 2 players) J:spade:

Hero shows A:heart: K:heart: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 46%, Flop 33%, Turn 23%)
CO shows Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks) (Pre 54%, Flop 67%, Turn 77%)
CO wins $3.15

I would definatly lay this down, at 2nl when players limp raise (especially a huge over-bet All in) they may aswell turn there hand face up usally AA KK or AK. At very best you are flipping to QQ or chop it up. But it is -EV to call here. IMO fold here. Also the stats.. Easy lay down

Yeah to be fair I was pretty happy when I saw QQ's.

I haven't seen much of this awful limp shoving lately well especially on stars. Surely from the villain's point of view limping with QQ's is a generally an awful play? I mean I can understand if the players left to act behind we're maniacs who were raising every hand but we were only a few hands in everyone was pretty tight.

Anyway it will be a fold next time.

I have to agree w/ Runner. Your either flipping or way behind. lol @ his all in.

spsb83 said:

Yeah to be fair I was pretty happy when I saw QQ's.

I haven't seen much of this awful limp shoving lately well especially on stars. Surely from the villain's point of view limping with QQ's is a generally an awful play? I mean I can understand if the players left to act behind we're maniacs who were raising every hand but we were only a few hands in everyone was pretty tight.

Anyway it will be a fold next time.

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exactly! part of getting better while learning the game is identifying your mistakes and learning from them, posting on CC is a great way to improve I have found aswell

There's nothing wrong calling here. Of course if opponent is super tight you can fold it, but on a random person with not full stack I call it all the time. I also check if hes playing 1 table. IF he is it makes my decision even easier.

HoldOnTheRail said:

I also check if hes playing 1 table. IF he is it makes my decision even easier.

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whats the reasoning behind basing your decision on how many tables the vilan is playing? Really?

runnerx289 said:

whats the reasoning behind basing your decision on how many tables the vilan is playing? Really?

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Villains who play 1 table suck.
Although we can already see villain sucks looking at his stats.

The only thing at all deterring me is his tiny PFR% but I still aint folding this.

I think it's a fold, mainly due to his PFR, and it doesn't look like he does this with A/Q.

Never folding.

Close but I'd fold too and wait for a better spot, back raises are just almost always QQ+, especially one of this magnitude... Minus the rake you're getting just a hair above 1:1.. You're at best flipping and even if you include AK and AQ you're still in Pretty bad shape in the sense that you are at best just a sliver EV+ assuming that back raise range.

Then again of course...2nlers are retarded and may just do this with 72o for the lulz. So really, I guess it depends on whether your retardmeter is tingling.

So in conclusion, given this spot....IMO both folding and calling are reasonable and not huge mistakes, but I personally like a smoother ride so I would fold this majority of the time.

blockers + its 2nl, call