$2 NLHE Full Ring: 2 Pair on Turn Against Possible Flush

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 22/6/19

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 30.12, PFR: 9.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, hands: 83)
MP: 130 BB (VPIP: 21.54, PFR: 6.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
CO: 61 BB (VPIP: 15.01, PFR: 4.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.90, Hands: 376)
Hero (BTN): 209 BB
SB: 46 BB (VPIP: 27.00, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 100)
BB: 50 BB (VPIP: 46.70, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.68, Hands: 415)
UTG: 56 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: J:diamond:

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) A:spade: 5:heart: J:heart:
MP bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
MP bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB


Based on his PFR I put him on pocket pairs or broadways. With such high AF I figured he was betting with all his hands. Do you think raising the turn was the right play to try and get more money in the pot, or do you just call and let this player keep betting out?

Reraise the flop.As played,just flat the turn,the villain still have the possibility of flush.

BigCountryGB said:

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 22/6/19

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 30.12, PFR: 9.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 83)
MP: 130 BB (VPIP: 21.54, PFR: 6.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
CO: 61 BB (VPIP: 15.01, PFR: 4.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.90, Hands: 376)
Hero (BTN): 209 BB
SB: 46 BB (VPIP: 27.00, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 100)
BB: 50 BB (VPIP: 46.70, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.68, Hands: 415)
UTG: 56 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A<font color='red'>♥</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) A<font color='black'>♠</font> 5<font color='red'>♥</font> J<font color='red'>♥</font>
MP bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) Q<font color='red'>♥</font>
MP bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB


Based on his PFR I put him on pocket pairs or broadways. With such high AF I figured he was betting with all his hands. Do you think raising the turn was the right play to try and get more money in the pot, or do you just call and let this player keep betting out?

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What was villain AF?

I like the flat here with AJo against such a tight open from MP with SB and BB having small 3B%.

Flop is a raise pretty much always at 2NL, as you said his range is pretty much pairs and broadways in this spot...

Roughly 88+,ATs+,KTs+,AQo+

Your like 85% against the above range and you can still get called pretty wide by a lot of his range. Very draw heavy board so you want to charge the flush and stubborn gut shot draws. Raising to around 15bb is the best play imo.

Turn is not the worst card given that you hold the Ah (which removes a lot of his heart combos) and the Qh removes a lot of the others, you are now really only worried about AQ, KT and sets. I think raising here though you don't get action with worse.

His range that calls a raise on the flop when this turn card comes is narrowed to roughly

JJ+,AcKc,AdKd,AsKs,AcQc,AdQd,AsQs,AcJc,AdJd,AsJs,AcTc,AdTd,AsTs,KcQc,KdQd,KsQs,KcJc,KdJd,KsJs,AcKd,AcKh,AcKs,AdKc,AdKh,AdKs,AsKc,AsKd,AsKh,AcQd,AcQh,AcQs,AdQc,AdQh,AdQs,AsQc,AsQd,AsQh,AcJh,AcJs,AdJc,AdJh,AdJs,AsJc,AsJh,KcQd,KcQs,KdQc,KdQs,KhQc,KhQd,KhQs,KsQc,KsQd


We have about 70% equity against that range.

Had you raised the turn however you would have had the initiative and could have bet about half pot here and called off to a shove. This would be my preferred play.

Very important we have the Ace of Hearts in our hand!

I like a raise on the flop.

A lot of MP's range includes hands that have connected with this board. Either through a pair, a few flush draws, straight draws. And since we are in late position and hold the Ace of Hearts, we can easily be on a flush draw and get called off by AK, AQ, AT.

I don't *hate* the raise on the turn, except that 6.1 PFR makes me think his continuation range here is very much AK and AQ... and the problem is your range is now largely 2pair, set, flush, and made straight combos. So I think it's hard to get called by AK in this spot.

As is... you do have 2 pair and a draw to the nut flush, so it's not like you're drawing dead. But I think considering how tight your opponent is it is better to flat.

ConDeck said:

What was villain AF?

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The villain's AF was 19 with a sample of 66 hands.

Raise flop. Flat turn

Check check river unless heart comes out or a or j

Keeep posting more hands

Aces2w1n said:

Raise flop. Flat turn

Check check river unless heart comes out or a or j

Keeep posting more hands

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If he raises flop and doesn't get shoved on (which we don't mind as we block almost everything that has us beat) and villain flats, then villain pretty much never leads turn, so we can't flat there. I'm pretty happy betting 65% pot on the turn then shoving most rivers, villain jams his flush on the turn most of the time and we will still have the odds to call off, although I'm less happy about it, and the only bad rivers really are Tcsd, Kcsd, Qcsdh.

The first thing that catches my eye is his reasonably tight opening range at 6% that means he's going to have plenty of Aces in this spot.
With that in mind I agree a flop raise is in order and I expect to get called by AK AQ maybe AT and splits.
As played his turn bet sizing looks like a top pair hand like AK that isn't sure what its doing. However there is a lot of AQ in his range here so now I don't like raising the turn, I'd just call and look at what the river brings, we have the luxury of being in position which really helps here.

I just thought we are ahead here.

I would just call and see what will fall on river.

I would like to know his action at that point and assess it from there.

If I hit two pair at $2NL I'm raising flop, calling turn, and betting river - flush draw or not.