$2 NLHE Full Ring: 2 pair hand against a one-suit flop - Part 2

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MP1: $4.39
MP2: $4.14
Hero (CO): $3.60
BTN: $2.46
SB: $2.04
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
UTG+1: $0.86

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with K :club: J :spade:
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) K :diamond: 6 :diamond: J :diamond: (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.10) 8 :heart: (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $0.10, MP1 folds

River: ($0.30) 3 :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

I know, I know, don't limp :D lets ignore that for now, I like to fish for big pots with semi-good hands sometimes if the table is nice and passive.

1. My problem here is that this time I have my "favorite" 2P vs. unicolor board horror flop against FOUR people and I seriously have no idea what to do except check since there is no way all will fold to a bet and I might be facing a completed flush already (these people LOVE to slowplay).
2. Turn bet was different, this time there is only one card left and 3 duly folded, leaving me with only one contender.
3. I didn't dare bet river since only hand that calls is the one that has me beaten. If he bets river I fold unless the bet is microscopic.

Comments?
 
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youregoodmate

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Raise pre.

Betting flop and turn then maybe checking the river.

As played bet river every time
 
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Why bet the flop? I can't make 4 of them fold with 2 cards left and betting for value is questionable here since I am not that strong against 4 people (am I?).

About the other thread, it is not a brag and I need serious answers if possible. The hands at the flop are different due to different number of people involved.

I am really asking what to do against this exact type of flop since I am massively losing money in this situation...

Everybody slowplays their made flushes until they lump the river after I have inflated the pot. This way if I stop betting they at least have to show their hand so to speak.
 
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Why would you not raise CO with KJ suited?
 
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Read it again and saw where you said ignore the limp...fire on flop, you would most people fold, if I had a call, then I would be cautious about barreling on the turn,check the turn, if villain checks back, then fire on the river. If he overbets then you played well and he probably has the flush. This is when HUDs pay for themselves...
 
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Why bet the flop? I can't make 4 of them fold with 2 cards left and betting for value is questionable here since I am not that strong against 4 people (am I?).

About the other thread, it is not a brag and I need serious answers if possible. The hands at the flop are different due to different number of people involved.

I am really asking what to do against this exact type of flop since I am massively losing money in this situation...

Everybody slowplays their made flushes until they lump the river after I have inflated the pot. This way if I stop betting they at least have to show their hand so to speak.

Our KJ is massive on that flop. We're betting for value, knowing that flush draws and Kx can call, if at any point we get raised its almost certainly a fold.

As for the other hand, you have the effective nuts, what advice could you need?
 
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Yeah I was shocked to see you dident bet the flop your getting called by a ton of 1 dimond hands that should make up for the times they actualy flopped the flush.
 
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OK, thanks guys, I am obviously overly cautious since I had several such hands where I got burned when trying to bet a 2 pair hand.
 
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